World: r3wp

web-public already

Any reason why you can't be more specific here "Oh, and regarding 
VID: we plan to be making very big changes there. More to come soon." 
?

Web-public already ---- True, but only for a month or three, depending 
on the Q&A rate.
http://www.rebol.net/altweb/rebol3/chat390.html

shows only the most recent 300 messages.....Many web-public groups 
have "lost" a lot of valuable discussions that way. A more permanent 
and Google-friendly home is needed for much of this.

thank you very much Gabriele and RT  - this aproach is SO MUCH appreciated, 
that you will probably not believe it!

Graham: More to come soon. :-)

Gabriele - why the secrets? :-)

The Q for next weeks round is:

(note - my view may be influenced by insufficient knowledge in the 
area given) - last weeks I played with wrapping some Win32 functions. 
I started discussion on dll.so channel, to ask developers, if they 
would enhance interfacing to C libraries in some way, and there was 
few ideas appearing. We currently have also rather strange callbacks 
support (limited to 16) and I would like to ask, taking into account 
that DLL interface in Rebol was not changed/enhanced since it appeared 
long time ago, if RT sees any area in which it could be made more 
robust, developers friendly etc.?

A: I'm not sure what is meant by the path for it. You mean for refinements?

Yes, that is what I meant. If it is a major slowdown to check for 
this, add the APPLYP opcode I mentioned for the more general case, 
or have APPLY for the general case and APPLYF to apply functions 
only. Or you could just apply functions and have the refinements 
case be put in a do block or a wrapper function. You can handle refinements 
in rebcode, right?

Anyway, thanks for the struct! support and the new datatypes!

Nevermind on the paths for refinements: I just saw rebcode test 10 
and your apply, putting the refinements in the argument block - it 
will do nicely :)

Some time ago I talked with Carl here on AltME and mentioned PhotoThreads. 
Carl wanted me to keep an eye on it. There is newer version now. 
What is PhotoThreads can be read here: http://www.sics.se/~adam/pt/about.html
.... maybe we are lucky enough to get concurency with Rebol 3.x family 
:-)

Gabriele, I definitely would like to be informed and involved when 
VID changes are happening. You will let us know won't you ?

There are a lot of functions in REBOL that return the value none 
to indicate failure. Could you add an opcode
    none?: ["Set flag if value is none" word!]
to test for that?

To rebcode I mean, and the flag would be the condition flag.

eq var none

Nice :)

After testing, it seems that sett considers none to be false. This 
is exactly what I needed.

Request withdwarn.

withdrawn

btw, i think we should have a separate channel for enhancement requests...

I agree!

Did I miss a Wednesday ?

If Wednesday has been delayed, perhaps we can find out what the secret 
developments in line for VID are ??

Gabriele or Carl, have you checked the conversation in "Rebol Enhancements" 
where we were hashing out enhancements to and comments on rebcode? 
Carl did request this in his blog...

I just fear one thing which tended to happen in the past - RT was 
silent before the release, release was done and then it was late 
for suggestions. Gabriele, please, try to avoid that :-) Tell Carl, 
please, that folks do need his attention here. You have some input 
in Rebol Enhancements group. In fact we don't know where to post, 
so some of us submit even to RAMBO. Everybody feels we are near freezing 
for 1.4/2.7, so please let's not cut some fine late enhancements.

Hey, I always read this world. maybe not every message... but I read 
it.

good to know, some folks seem to be worried, about where to post, 
it the message gets to Carl, etc. :-)

Gabriele -- could you point Carl to Feedback message #5a5e09270?
It's been unanswered for a couple of weeks.

Basically, asks if there is any plans for formating numbers -- as 
per the discussion here (core group, 5-oct)
Thanks!

Q: I realize that the open sourcing of the viewtop wasn't that successful, 
but do you still intend to keep releasing newer versions of it? AFAIK 
the current release is over a year old. I've experienced a lot of 
obvious bugs in the viewtop editor, which I think can easily be solved 
by people outside RT.

hello, where I could  find facts and values about Rebol vs Business 
world ? with reboltof (christophe Coussement, we have the project 
to write a white paper about Rebol and Business (target date, on 
March 17, 2005, for the french Rebol Day, Paris). How many developpers 
works with Rebol ? how many dowloads of Rebol/core and View ? How 
many licenses for SDK ? Examples of Business with Rebol, tools, softwares. 
Real-world softwares.... etc.

maybe we should write about using the opensource viewtop in the rebol 
wikibook

there's a place set aside for that .. go ahead.

as far as i remember, i wasnt able to try it out because the description 
was not obvious for a newcomer. maybe now i would succeed trying 
it

While reviewing the action! functions, I noticed the path action. 
The doc comment says "Path selection.". The parameters aren't typed. 
Does anyone know what this action does, and how to use it? Or whether 
it can be or should be called directly at all?

I'm not sure, how to make a use of it, but it does have an effect:
>> blk: [a b c]
== [a b c]
>> path blk 3
>> blk
== [a b]

>> x: [a b c d]   path x 'c   x
== [a b c]

looks like a kind of inconsistency

yeah, strange!

Not strange. it does a path-lookup. 
!> a: [b 1 c 2 d 3]
== [b 1 c 2 d 3]
!> a/c: 22
== 22
!> a
== [b 1 c 22 d 3]
!> a/4: 222
== 222
!> a
== [b 1 c 222 d 3]

the strange thing is that it puts this strange value there, which 
stops molding.

Here's a question for RT:

Should I wait on my feedback on the new rebcode docs until the next 
version of the interpreter, after the great rename?

Brain: probably, however I think Gregg may be happy to get your feedback 
anyway.

I'll do a critique this evening, then.

Gabriele - could you please pass my latest comments/links to Carl? 
I looked into Io slide-show and found they do use libevent library. 
I posted links into TechNews group. There is interesting reading 
in-there, also hidden is some links - liboop and The C10K problem 
..... Maybe we will find another libraries for further rebol improvements, 
like Cyphre did find agg.

http://www.liboop.org/why/

I've got a question for RT about rebcode. Is rebcode going to support 
paths and/or some kind of binding? Thanks

Carl is pretty busy right now, se we should maybe pass the links 
later on. please remember me about it.

Kru, one of the list of suggestions we compiled for rebcode was a 
BIND opcode.

What do you think about  http://mail.rebol.net/maillist/msgs/39493.html
? Why not say a word in your blog, if you think that it's interessant 
for rebol developpment, and if you want to contact them ?

Charles - the page is empty ...