World: r3wp

Pekr yes, external library call can solve it (partially). I have 
to install some C/C++ SDK and start to learn it again...

I worked with image data in external library, was not all that difficult. 
Forget C ++, use C. But then - image data is just repetitive pattern 
of RGBA values, so maybe working with sound data will be much more 
difficult ...

Can you write prototype in rebol, and i try my c-skills?

sorry, what prototype?

Syntezar's?

that needed c-part, fft.

i don't know the math, but i may be able to translate rebol to c.

there's fft C library, http://www.fftw.org/

so you only need stubs?

but I haven't tried it yet.

No I probably have to rewrite all my routines to C. I haven't started 
working on FFT at all.

I've got phase-distortion oscillator, FM oscillator, wavetable oscillator 
and my exponential oscillaor plus four types of filters and it's 
really time consuming in REBOL

Can i try t translate that?

That should be great

Where to start?

you can try this Phase Distortion I wrote yesterday

where do i find it?

osc: context [
	phase: 0
	AM: 1				;Amplitude modulation
	PWM: 0.5		;Pulse width modulation
	DCW: .5	; phase transition between sine and other wave [0 - 1]

 wave-length: 400	;wave-length is sample-rate / frequency - don't 
 wanna have samplerate here	
	algorithms: [
		saw [
			d: (1 - dcw) / 2
			cosine 360 * switch-range ph [
				0 d [ph * (pwm / d)]
				d 1 [(ph - d / (1  - d)) * pwm + pwm]
			]
		]
		square [
			d: 1 / max 1e-50 (1 - dcw)
			cosine 360 * switch-range ph reduce [
				0 .25 [ph * 4 ** d / 4]
				.25 .5 [(abs ph - .5) * 4 ** d / 4 + .5]
				.5 .75 [ph * 4 - 2 ** d / 4 + .5]
				.75 1 [(abs ph - 1) * 4 ** d / 4 + 1]
			]
		]
				
		triangle [
		;triangle is d~.588888
			d: 1 - (dcw * .41111) ;1 / max 1e-50 (1 - dcw)
			cosine 360 * switch-range ph reduce [
				0 .25 [ph * 4 ** d / 4]
				.25 .5 [(abs ph - .5) * 4 ** d / 4 + .5]
				.5 .75 [ph * 4 - 2 ** d / 4 + .5]
				.75 1 [(abs ph - 1) * 4 ** d / 4 + 1]
			]
		]
	]
	algorithm: 'saw
	curves: copy []
	forskip algorithms 2 [append curves to string! algorithms/1]
	phaser: func [][
		phase-per-byte: 1 / wave-length
		phase: phase + phase-per-byte
		if phase > 1 [phase: phase - 1]
		phase
	]
	wave: func [
	][
		ph: phaser
		do select algorithms algorithm
	]

right here ')

Thats the right size to refresh my knowledge :)

PWM should be always 0.5 (it's from some older version)

it supprots three different waveform (still six missing to recreate 
my CasioCZ ;)

basics are 'phaser function - updates oscillator phase

and wave function - produces actual sound

with DCW you control shape of waveform. DCW-0 is sine waveform, DCW-1 
is (square, saw, triangle)

where does switch-range come from?

it's just support function

switch-range: func [number blk][
	foreach [rfrom rto action] blk [
		if not number? rfrom [rfrom: get rfrom]
		if not number? rto [rto: get rto]
		if all [number >= rfrom number < rto][return do action]
	]
]

Is there a loop around that?

yes there's a loop

I'm filling a buffer of 256 bytes so I can change parametres in realtime 
(buffer is filled, GUI works again, I can fiddle with knobs) and 
then I add buffer's content to some sound [block!]

buffer: context [
	length: 256
	data: make block! length
	init: does [
		data: make block! length
	]
	fill: func [fnc][
		init
		loop length [
			insert tail data do fnc
			data
		]
	]
]

then just >>insert tail sound buffer/data

but because there's no difference in speed of integer and FP math 
in REBOL, everything is done in FP sou it's needed to convert FP 
to 16-bit integer

sou=so

math with fpu should be comparable in speed today. i try it.

I'm using this code (and I really hope there's some better solution): 
>> insert tail sample do rejoin ["#{" skip to-hex to integer! (sample-value 
+ 1) * 32767.5 4 "}"]

If floating point is fast enough today, it's better to use FP because 
of resolution

I know Rebol quite well but I don't know music. Can anybody point 
me to a white paper/tutorial/newbie docs/samples that explains how 
to valorize sound/data to play some notes? Thank you.

luca: take a look at http://www.rebol.com/docs/sound.html, it's 
googd start. there are examples how to synthetize simple sine wavew 
and how to apply some envelope on it.

Thank you, it is exactly what I was looking for.

Bob Moog, inventor of famous synthesizers, died at age 71. Sad day 
for electronic music. http://www.moogmusic.com

Moog producs: http://www.moogmusic.com/detail.php
Amazing!

Volker so you're interested what's possible with better sound? Me 
too. But I can tell you, what is possible with today's sound. This 
- http://krutek.info/pix/pdsynth.png;)))

That is soo cool! :-)

Does the sound sound "green" like this? :)

two or three things still missing: WAV saver, Vibrato and probably 
something else. At least WAV saver must be finished before release.

Sounds very green ;))

But it's slow. rebcode! will be great for this

if you have something to translate to c, tell me.