World: r3wp

@Gabriele: Is there already known where the hotel in Treviglio will 
be? I'll have vacation before the conference at the Garda lake and 
I don't know how my internet access will be, to get to know easily 
any information new on the conference website.

@Gabriele: I am curious too.

MichaelB: The Hotel is in the outskirts of a small town bordering 
with Treviglio. www.hotelverri.it

So, in general how good is Europe about open WiFI?


In America, I think Starbucks offers free internet access (wireless), 
or perhaps you need to keep buying coffee...I don't drink coffe so 
I have never confirmed this.

In general I find that if I drive by any office compkexe I can get 
an open signal though. Even in Maui, I went to the industrial area, 
and there was a perfect connection while I ate at a little food place 
in an odd industrial park.

I don't know about Europe in general, but in italy WiFi access is 
quite rare. you can find it at large airports and so on... but not 
much more than that i'm afraid.

today i bought the tickets for the train Rome-Milan

i got a discount, so in the end it's going to be € 45 per person.

i think i'll send all of you a reminder email with the tickets you 
requested, total money due and so on.

Reichart, open WiFi is not that often available. You need a provider 
to access WiFi. There are a lot of HotSpots but not for free.

Yep. Most hotspots certainly in the UK cost money, often quite a 
lot. That includes Starbucks.

On the other hand, there are a lot of unprotected networks....Not 
that I'd want to enter a password while using one.

Starbucks WiFi costs in the US, too. I am lucky that Seattle has 
a lot of small local coffeeshops with free WiFi. In one right now, 
actually :-)

@Mario: Thanks for the link to the hotel. The hotel looks pretty 
nice to me. :-)

Yeah, there is a big movement to make WiFI free in america, I would 
have to agree, it is worth it.  Like being able to call 911 for free 
from a payphone.  Perhaps the max throughput would have a threshold.


Anyway, Europe, well, I guess I will be always seeking an office 
where I can plug in.

DevCon 2005 website is the nicest rebol related website so far. Kudoz 
to Chris and whoever else collaborated on that ....

100% done with makedoc. :-)

anyway, for thos that haven't noticed, the schedule has changed.

what?

makedoc knows columnar design? Or this one is done via css?

Steve will not be able to join us and his speech will be replaced 
by a presentation of Canvas RPaint by Geomol.

done with css. but, md can do tables too, if needed.

Gabriele - is anyone from france coming? I mean - e.g. DocKimbel? 
:-)

only DideC that I know of.

so unless they show up as a surprise... they are not coming.

btw - will there be any refresh to Video/sound streaming?

i'm going to do more debugging right now.

looks like it does not correctly fall back to tcp if UDP does not 
work.

thw windows version of QT requests application/x-rtsp-tunnelled, 
and gets the stream via TCP, but the Mac version does not do so, 
and does not get the stream via TCP.

dunno if i can do anything to solve this... :/

Gabriele can you post the code use to embed the stream on the web 
page. It maybe something there.

don't think so, it's the same both for windows and mac. :)

anyway, you can just read the web page source, or point to the stream 
directly, rtsp://motoko.rebol.it/teststream.sdp

the .mov is just RTSPtext rtsp://....

Is the stream running?

should be, but i think the are problems with the relay to motoko

Yes. I can not connect using the rstp uri.

What is the devcon url for the stream I don't seem to find it.

try rtsp://217.133.2.35/teststream.sdp - though not sure i have enough 
bw for both relay and a connection

http://www.colellachiara.com/devcon05/live.html

The error I am getting is (403) forbidden. Thats against motoko

BRB lunch

doesn't work anymore on windows for me. i haven't changed anything, 
maybe it's just network issues...

the stream is ok if i connect directly to the mac

but the relay doesn't work anymore.

I am back.

we plan a visit to the ethernal city, Rome .. is this like a wired 
city ?

Oh. Sorry I got another impression by your posting on DevCon.

For info Dockimbel can't come as he will be in London for a marriage. 
He is sad but can't do otherwise.

G, Is that true? "100% done with makedoc. :-)"

DideC: his marriage? Congratulation then! :-) Tell him we miss him 
... and his R# :-)

I betcha he means wedding and not marriage!