World: r3wp

Yes, Italy sounds very well to me. I would do my best to show up.

Consider that many europeans didn't/coudn't came last year, I agree 
with Gabriele, the point is "meeting"

Where in Italy?

and Carl should really be there! if not it would be like going to 
Apple WWDC and not having Steve doing the keynote! 8)

if possible, also bring a bit better video and audio recording equipment. 
I liked last years videos, but the quality was poor

the quality was porr beacause of the poor video support

the quicktime server was extremly null I thinl it could be good to 
start to seek  for a better technology since to have to research 
one 2 days before the conf  ;)

Italy, eh? Sounds cool.

I'll go to Italy;

Likewise

Could try to come too.

Let's do it every year. Remember: Each second is the start of the 
rest of your lifetime.

about video: the quality was poor because of the bandwidth restrictions. 
if you are streaming live, you want to use as low bandwidth as possible.

i wanted to record to tape too, however that would mean changing 
the tape every 60 min, i.e. stopping the stream every 60 mins. if 
we manage to have two cameras this time, we won't have this problem. 
i'll record to tape and another camera will be used for the stream.

also, shadwolf, if you know any better technology i'll be very happy 
to adopt it. in my searches i didn't find anything.

3 hour videotape?  6 hour long play videotape ?

no talk would be longer than one hour .. plenty of time to change 
tapes?

minDV is only 60min, at least that's what i found here. but anyway, 
yes, one expects talks to be shorter, but there's still the problem 
of having to stop the stream. it's much better to have two cameras, 
one for the stream and one for recording.

also, while the stream camera would mainly point to the screen, the 
recording camera would point mainly to the speaker, since with minimal 
editing you can just make a screenshot of the slides and insert them 
in the video at the appropriate places.

anyway, i think it's early to talk about the video; let's find out 
where and when first. :)

it seems to me people like the last week of september.

about the place, here where i live would be cheaper (and we have 
some good winemakes in this region too ;), but it's not very easy 
to reach (the closest airport is Pescara, but it's a small airport; 
the closest international airport is Rome)

we could do it in Rome, so we're close to the airport and we can 
visit the city (everybody wants to visit Rome at least once :), but 
it will probably be more expensive. also, traffic in Rome is very 
chaotic, and this is something we may want to take into account.

other choices could be Milan or Florence (but Florence's airport 
is small too). I don't know people in other cities so it would be 
harder for me to organize.

I do not like Milan from a turist perspective, no mountains, hills 
, no lake , no see, nothing but grey buildings, of course some nice 
churches butof those there are many in Italy.

Being so that we need lot of brain exercises during the conferences, 
would you prefer a cahotic metropolitan city that would take you 
anyway a whole week to visit or a nice quite relaxing place with 
sea view, good food (that is almost anywhere in Italy) ?

Howabout Como? Nice place and Star Wars did some takes there.

I like Italy, and I would go.

Sicily?

but likely best for Gab's convenience would be where he would suggest.

It is already a time to do a call for papers/presentations to build 
up publicity, and to do a press release, which gives plenty of time 
for it to google up.

If it is decided to do, then first press release could be one for 
call for papers, not naming exact location, only the name, then when 
a location decided, a second press release. (just wanting to throw 
some ideas from last years experiences)

The classes or scheduled things should be with plenty of time between, 
maybe alternate between a lecture and then a discussion activity 
so people have a longer time to "network".  And a big clock on the 
wall to help manage time...;-)

A bad thing about the hotel last year is that the conference room 
was not close to the lobby.  A better setup might be a good conference 
room, and a secondary room for "networking" / labbing (or just a 
room with an open door adjacent) with the conference room near the 
lobby so the flow of REBOLers is always near it, and the schedule 
posted there with any announcements.

I think we should try to get the conference to be hosted in a university, 
and exponsored by the university. Plus is that you may attract some 
students, also costs will lower, and the university campus will be 
nicer.

If programmed for the summer time we could even use the university 
doorms which will be cheaper.

as someone who tried to watch the proceedings of the last devcon, 
it was not so much the video feed that was of value but the slide 
content, audio and perhaps the role altme played in proviiding feedback/questions 
from those not present , perhaps a tool could be built to facilitate 
this process ?.

University: i know a lot of people at the faculty of engineering 
at the university of L'Aquila. the closest airport is still Rome 
though.

about announcing: yes, probably it's better to start sooner than 
later.

I'll be glad to go in Italy in september !

I thought this year it is going to be in France, and next year, 10th 
anniversary of Rebol it will be in CZ :-)

Petr, I hope it'll be where the people who want to host it are enthusiastic.

Gabriele's made an enthusiastic bid for Italy for this year, and 
that has my support.
Not too early to start inviting us to rebol/cz/2006 :-)

I have blocked off the last week of September on Carl's schedule

GREAT! 8)

Who gave her the authority to do that?  - j/k :-)   I'll be watching 
hopefully via video link - lets hope its better than last time.

By the way, some of the content on the DevCon2004 section of the 
rebol.net site apparently didn't make it to the new server. 403s 
abound.

great Cindy :)

i'll make sure you can visit some good winemakers here :)

I have a very good friend of mine who is winemaker. Maybe we can 
arrange an event and have some wine tasting.

Gabriele, hai un link con panorama/foto della regione?