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[DevCon2005] DevCon 2005

[unknown: 9]
4-Oct-2005
[2026]
Graham, I never said I don't need sleep, I simply need 4 hours of 
sleep.


Brett, no mention of Cell phone work, although we are working with 
Palm right now on making Qtask work with Palm as a Client.  It will 
be written 100% in Rebol.


Tom, Actually it was very serious.  He is going in for neck surgery 
Thursday.  They are talking to him about the fact that he could be 
a QP.  He is the smartest person I know in the world, this is very 
hard him and myself.  He is a world traveling (sold his company to 
Adobe years ago and is/was working on his own very important project). 
 I'm forcing him to stay with us, and I mean that in many ways.


Pekr, Safeworlds will make a formal announcement.  We are still working 
on stuff.  Altissimo is AltME 2.0, and we are working more closely 
with Rebol.  Things are looking good.


VID, someone else will need to answer, I think I missed the clear 
answer also.


AGG sound, yes, I Carl was expressing that it needs to be a standard.


As for all the new questions, I suggest using either the Checklist 
here in AltME and create a single question per line item, or Qtask. 
 This way we can confirm the important questions get answered.


Michael, I agree, many concrete things were stated.  Rebol has been 
hiring people.  It is using contractors as well.  Several big projects 
will be completed by the middle of November, more are coming, etc.
Gabriele
4-Oct-2005
[2027x6]
(still reading here) hey, encoding does not take WEEKS. i will have 
ALL videos up this week. my mini mac can easily handle that. :)
Petr: about async transfer: no, you don't need it. it takes me 20 
minutes to write one, AND the default transport handlers for LNS 
just provide that (TCP or HTTP).
Petr: IRC would have *NOT* worked form there. it's not our fault. 
we only had port 80 outgoing. and Mario even managed to make people 
use altme... and trust me, he was busy.
ok, finally got to the tail of this group... still need to look at 
my emails and so on... !
Carl's keynote should be up in a few hours. still encoding it. i 
want to upload it with bittorrent so that you can start downloading 
it while i'm still uploading it.
TO ALL SPEAKERS: please send me your slides. I need to publish everything.
Pekr
4-Oct-2005
[2033]
ok, torrent is fine ....
Gabriele
4-Oct-2005
[2034x2]
about all the rest: i think we could arrange sessions here on altme 
to have discussions.
just tell me the time, and the speaker you want to ask questions 
to, and i will try to make it happen.
Pekr
4-Oct-2005
[2036x2]
Gab - yes, IRC needs specific ports too .... I did not know that 
school could have so strict policy? Basically they cut cut wires, 
if they want to feel safe :-)
In several regards - rich-text, LNS, there was one concrete date 
mentioned - 14.11. - is that intentional? I mean - is there any announcement 
planned?
Gabriele
4-Oct-2005
[2038]
i don't know about that. but a lot of things are going to happen 
in the next couple months.
PhilB
4-Oct-2005
[2039]
If the files will be torrents .... does anyone have any suggestions 
for a clean bit-torrent client .... ie No spyware ....
Pekr
4-Oct-2005
[2040]
I use Azureus ... a good one ... java based, but fast enough, nice 
GUI
Gabriele
4-Oct-2005
[2041x2]
phil: you can also wait for when the file will be completely up on 
my server and then download via HTTP (though torrent would save a 
bit of my bw, thus is preferred whenever possible)
i wonder why, people that waited for 4 or so years couldn't wait 
for 4 days :P
Pekr
4-Oct-2005
[2043x2]
because they already waited those 4 years? :-))
No, not really - lot's of questions, because my personal experience 
is, that the most interesting news are usually being said behind 
the scenes, during non-formal chat, banquet etc. - and those ones 
will not be covered by your video :-)
Brock
4-Oct-2005
[2045]
My surprise about the conference is that VitalNeeds didn't appear 
to send their Community Liason.  I'd like to hear what happened with 
regards to that.
Gabriele
4-Oct-2005
[2046]
petr: sure but people will not tell you that, because you never know 
what is intended to be confidential. if carl tells something to me, 
i'm not allowed to tell that to everyone just because he told me.
Pekr
4-Oct-2005
[2047]
Brock - I asked about Vital Needs and you can find Carl's answer 
in Reichart's post, but it is not clear to me - something like "they 
are talking" .... but it seems to me like partnership would be lost, 
otherwise they would not remove every single reference from every 
single PDF file and announcement they published ;-)
PhilB
4-Oct-2005
[2048]
Thanks Petr ... I will try it out.
Gabriele
4-Oct-2005
[2049x4]
finished encoding carl's keynote... 131.5 MB
looks good... will give you a torrent link in a few mins. (need to 
set up the tracker...)
uhm... for some reason vlc cannot play the audio... it's AAC?!?!
well... going to upload anyway... works ok with QT
Pekr
4-Oct-2005
[2053]
who uses Quicktime anyway? I hope you encoded into divx/xvid? If 
not, why to waste space with arcane stuff?
Gabriele
4-Oct-2005
[2054]
MPEG4 is*NOT* arcane stuff. it is the STANDARD.
Pekr
4-Oct-2005
[2055]
ah, forgot you are a Mac user :-) Macs are almost nonexistant here 
:-)
Gabriele
4-Oct-2005
[2056]
actually, i always made mp4 on linux, and i'm just glad macs can 
do mp4 too.
Pekr
4-Oct-2005
[2057x2]
thought that it is mpeg2 - but - can it be encoded using ffdshow 
or any other codecs pack? Hopefully so ...
encoded = decoded,sorry ...
Gabriele
4-Oct-2005
[2059]
mpeg4 is just the successor of mpeg2... you know...
Pekr
4-Oct-2005
[2060x2]
that I know - I thought QT is using mpeg2, that is all ...
btw - what about open-source guys - how was Robert's presentation 
accepted? :-)
Gabriele
4-Oct-2005
[2062]
http://www.colellachiara.com/devcon05/carl.htmlplease let me know 
if the torrent is working for you.
MichaelB
4-Oct-2005
[2063]
It's working fine for me! :-)
Pekr
4-Oct-2005
[2064]
going home to start torrent :-)
Volker
4-Oct-2005
[2065]
downloading too.
Maarten
4-Oct-2005
[2066]
3kb/s
Pekr
4-Oct-2005
[2067]
heh, not much? :-) We need to put it on faster line :-)
Gabriele
4-Oct-2005
[2068x2]
i only have 512kbps out here :P
but... my server has 100Mbps so as soon as i'm finished uploading 
your speed will improve i guess :)
Romano
4-Oct-2005
[2070]
30 Kbit here
Brock
4-Oct-2005
[2071]
35 Kbit here.
Gabriele
4-Oct-2005
[2072]
( i should note... please keep BT running after you finished downloading 
so to upload to other too... this way people will be able to download 
it much faster. :)
Pekr
4-Oct-2005
[2073]
yes, from several sources ....
PhilB
4-Oct-2005
[2074]
Gab .... looks & sounds great !
[unknown: 9]
4-Oct-2005
[2075]
I have no slides.