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[!RebGUI] A lightweight alternative to VID

Pekr
28-Feb-2007
[5557x2]
what do you mean by "more consistent look"? Overall refactoring of 
RebGUI? Hmm, maybe Henrik needs to be put on contract for one week, 
to change default coloring and styling, to make RebGUI more attractive 
:-)
Have you seen Network Detective?
Henrik
28-Feb-2007
[5559x3]
pekr, I mean that buttons that look really good in one context may 
look like crap in a diffferent context. The buttons look overall 
rather bland against the cream colored background. A darker gray 
would emphasize the buttons more. It all distracts the balance of 
the look if the colors are disjointed and obscure certain features 
in the buttons.
yes
contract? well, yes, I could use the money. :-)
Pekr
28-Feb-2007
[5562]
:-)
Henrik
28-Feb-2007
[5563]
but I'm no fan of the Luna XP look
Pekr
28-Feb-2007
[5564x4]
I am not either ... in fact I held way too long off from rebgui, 
becuse it looks dull, much worse than default VID
e.g. - some time ago I did this comparison - http://www.xidys.com/btn-comparison.jpg
I voted for 1.3 to have Chris look - on the left side. You can also 
see default XP look, and current 1.3
cyphre styles - http://www.xidys.com/cyphre-styles.jpg- the design 
works, maybe because of darker background. I will try in the evening, 
to put tabs not on the dark background directly, but first in the 
group box ....
Henrik
28-Feb-2007
[5568]
yes, it's harder to do nice looking buttons against a bright background.
Pekr
28-Feb-2007
[5569]
otoh - tab completly fails on dark background. There is only few 
pixel visual space between tabs - try to run demo and set dark grey/blue/black 
background. It does not feel good ...
Henrik
28-Feb-2007
[5570x4]
INIT is a little odd here. It seems to be set to NONE after the face 
has been initialized.
found out how it works now.
http://rebol.hmkdesign.dk/hmkrebgui.zip
this is not a part of the official distribution or the SVN repository.
Pekr
28-Feb-2007
[5574]
I try to download it now ... what is different there?
Henrik
28-Feb-2007
[5575x2]
only the button
I'll do one at a time and have you review it
Pekr
28-Feb-2007
[5577]
it would be enough to post button.r, no?
Henrik
28-Feb-2007
[5578x2]
it would, but I thought it might be confusing?
in that case http://rebol.hmkdesign.dk/rebgui/button.r
Pekr
28-Feb-2007
[5580]
henrik - on buttons tab - can you see hilite effect for the most 
left button?
Henrik
28-Feb-2007
[5581]
no, I wondered if that is on purpose? Didn't check the source for 
tour.r
Pekr
28-Feb-2007
[5582]
imo, and just really imo, button should be the same "size" (height) 
as tabs, no?
Henrik
28-Feb-2007
[5583]
there's something I forgot for that "Info" button, will fix for next 
release.
Pekr
28-Feb-2007
[5584]
it clearly can be seen in Calendar widget imo
Henrik
28-Feb-2007
[5585x3]
I'd redesign that widget later to use completely square buttons.
dumped the 3D groove, which simplified the draw block somewhat
button.r updated
Pekr
28-Feb-2007
[5588]
I can see very small problem with hiliting, but that might be deeper 
rebol bug? Go to requestors, try to select some date ... the button 
stays hilited, unless you move mouse over it once again ...
Henrik
28-Feb-2007
[5589]
I see your bug and raise you one fix. :-) (I think it's a poker term)
Pekr
28-Feb-2007
[5590]
:-)
Henrik
28-Feb-2007
[5591]
early field.r uploaded. have to go out for a bit...
Pekr
28-Feb-2007
[5592]
ok ...
Henrik
28-Feb-2007
[5593]
field.r improved a bit.
Chris
28-Feb-2007
[5594]
Interesting to see those old styles :)
Henrik
28-Feb-2007
[5595x2]
field.r updated again. working a bit on password now.
password.r uploaded
Maxim
28-Feb-2007
[5597x3]
its funny cause through all those years of working on glayout, I 
never really took the time work on the actual aesthetics, that was 
not the point of GLayout... and since its built over VID... well 
we can effectively rework all and reuse most VID styles.


  somehow, I find, with the looks derived from henrik's previous tests, 
  where very close to what I would have done myself (hehe henrik and 
  I have to meet at devcon... I think we'd have much in common) Glayout 
  has found itself a simple yet elegant look.  The latest version have 
  started to work a bit more towards looks, and now the highlight is 
  used throughout, so one can change one line and switch  the default 
  golden color to anyone... I'm trying out grey blue these days.
sorry to cut in... but you where all talking about a subject I like 
so much.  I wish I had more time to make GLayout flashy... alas, 
like Anton, I work more on the the actual featureset and api, allowing 
anyone a vast array of tools he can reuse in his styles...
(end of involuntary GLayout intrusion  ;-)
Pekr
28-Feb-2007
[5600x5]
Henrik - nice, although I don't understand what you are upto with 
fields/password-fields. The thing is a bit tricky. Overall, I started 
to like field with thin borders (not like ugly VID ones with border 
of 2x2, that is just so old-days)
But, imo, if you want to change fields, it should be on pair with 
drop-downs etc., which do use field too ... and if you put fields 
into tab, group-box, those would need change too imo ...
btw - I like Cyphre's fading group-box styling - http://www.xidys.com/cyphre-styles.jpg.
That fade-out should be possible with new draw even more. And maybe 
it could be used even for your field effect :-)
but OK, your button is definitely better than initial Ashley's attempt. 
Well, IMO, but I think most would agree here? I will let you adapt 
further some styles and let's see how feel of RebGUI changes in  
general ...
small glitch - go to Grouping\Panel .... resize the screen to make 
it wider. Name field gets strange color problem ...
Henrik
28-Feb-2007
[5605]
yes, I noticed. I forgot whether the field was originally supposed 
to stretch there?
Henrik
1-Mar-2007
[5606]
field.r updated with a slightly better defined edge