World: r3wp

Some crude benchmarks with %tour.r

	tooltips: true		60-70% CPU
	tooltips: false		3%


Heavy optimization cuts the first one by 5% and the second by 1%, 
but the base cause of the problem is this line in rebgui-display.r:

	find-face event/offset event/face ctx-rebgui/tooltip-sensitive


which is needed to get around the View detect bug described here: 
http://www.rebol.com/docs/view-system.html#section-5.7

RAMBO Ticket #3867

ctx-rebgui/effects/tooltips: false

Works for me .. back to 0% again.

I have never seen this effect with the version I use. And I have 
tooltips on and use them. My app idels and tooltips work without 
any problems.

hmm, will you guys build downloadable file once you reach merged 
and kind of stable release?

just use the svn, and then run create-distribution.r

Graham, Pekr probably mean, that it's nice that you announce build 
numbers. But for example I don't know how to access your svn so the 
build numbers are a little bit useless. So maybe one day it will 
be fine to see some link into rebol file as well:)

Yes, adding some RebGUI stable release to a web-site is a good idea. 
I can do it, or Ashley do you want to do it on your web-site?

well, I downloaded SVN (Tortoise) to not be a lazy dog :-) I just 
don't know what to do with it yet :-)

where do I enter the url of trac?

hmm, do I need to first set-up any user accoung prior to being able 
to download files? What URL shoul I enter?

I get some propfind error, if I enter http://track.geekisp.com/rebgui

svn:// not http://

trac is not svn

and the whole url, please?

svn://svn.geekisp.com/rebgui

trac is a different program altogether .. it's a web interface to 
svn

right click on a directory, and then choose checkout from the svn 
directory

enter the svn url and that's it.

and those releases you talk abou there, are there, right?

hmm, can't connect, have to check my proxy settings :-(

this information is on the page http://trac.geekisp.com/rebgui

and when you checkout, you should get the latest builds

sources

ok, thanks ....

161kB.. it's pretty large:] I just don't like the oval buttons with 
gradients

Robert, is your tool-tip implementation based upon different code?

Oldes - you have a better design we can use?

no, I like the BTN style of button which is in Rebol by default

please change tabs - they look ugly :-)

I'm not sure the tabs look ugly.. they certainly are more visual 
than the previous highlighting.

is there any change?

I talk about the "old version" I posted some screenshots for e.g. 
cyphre's tabs. The visual trouble is, that there is not space between 
them.

before there was a thin highlight to show which tab you were on ; 
now the whole tab is highlighted.

only the small corner "triangle" - few pixels - it does not work 
with darker background ...

I'm quite happy with the visuals at the moment.

I would prefer despaced boxed (not "rounded") design ... or just 
make it usable for dark backgrounds. It feels somehow smeared/blurred, 
dunno ... but - maybe just my feelings ...

ok, I will better first try to download new stuff ...

Graham - you use default white bacground, no? Have you tried darker 
one?

lunch ...

default white

tooltip: I don't know what code is in the offical version at the 
moment. IIRC it's our code. So, there seem to be some other sideeffects 
in the merged version.

Just checked #58 again, and tested Control-S .. not working for me.

maybe I haven't got the dictionary set up correctly.

Ok, need to create a english.dat file and place into the dictionary 
folder.

Ashley, how about including a dictionary directory, with english.dat 
in the svn?

American or British? Dictionaries can be found here: http://www.dobeash.com/RebGUI/edit.html#section-4.2

will you guys build downloadable file once you reach merged and kind 
of stable release?

 Last stable build is #46 available via the View desktop and here: 
 http://www.dobeash.com/download.html


Once the current changes "settle down" (i.e. at least a week or so 
passes without a major new issue/problem) I'll update the stable 
set.

161kB.. it's pretty large
 ... 30+ widgets tends to do that! ;)

I like the BTN style of button which is in Rebol by default

 ... Come up with an AGG (not image-based) equivalent or similar and 
 I'll gladly use that.


re: tabs (and button) look. My previous goal was to try and map the 
look as closely as possible to WinXP. This required a combination 
of images and complex draw commands. My goal now is to keep it as 
simple as possible, with a nice clean look that can be implemented 
with as few effects/draw commands as possible. Button is an example 
of that. Instead of using 3 images and changing them based on current 
button state, I now use a simple draw block and change a single value 
based on state. Note that the radius is customizable (via effects/radius). 
Does this produce the best looking button ever? No. But don't fault 
the technique, rather my [limited] AGG compositional skills! Feel 
free to come up with a better button algorithm.


tabs are another example, where yellow lines of varying length were 
drawn to approximate the WinXP tab look, and had to be cleared and 
redrawn based on state changes. The new approach uses a simple effect 
block ( [round color 5] )where all that needs changing on a state 
change is the color. Same deal as button applies. Come up with a 
simple draw block that creates a good looking tab and I'll gladly 
use that.

Ashley, how to stop defaulting highlighting all the text in an area 
widget on select ?