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[!RebGUI] A lightweight alternative to VID

Pekr
10-Jul-2006
[4350x2]
For those wanting to see first results of rebgui-grid, here's the 
screenshot - http://www.xidys.com/rebgui-grid.jpg
it is already ways more powerfull than rebgui table .... still some 
features missing though ...
Henrik
10-Jul-2006
[4352]
nice looking
Pekr
10-Jul-2006
[4353]
rebgui is not nice looking :-)
Henrik
10-Jul-2006
[4354]
sometimes beauty can be below the surface :-)
Pekr
10-Jul-2006
[4355x2]
Chris' buttons on the left - that is what I call nicely looking :-) 
http://www.xidys.com/btn-comparison.jpg
well, it is nice to hear it from the guy, who is author of most powerfull 
grid I ever seen (well, except my favourite and needed horizontal 
scrolll, which Cyphre's version supports from now on)
Graham
10-Jul-2006
[4357]
what's that icon in the title bar?
Henrik
10-Jul-2006
[4358]
>> ? help
USAGE:
    HELP 'word

DESCRIPTION:
     Prints information about words and values.
     HELP is a function value.

ARGUMENTS:
     word -- (Type: any-type)

>> do %/c/rebol/rebgui/rebgui.r
Script: "RebGUI system" (11-Jul-2005)
Script: "Untitled" (none)

>> ? help
USAGE:
    HELP 'word   word -- (Type: any-type)>>

What does this?
Henrik
11-Jul-2006
[4359x3]
print was set to NONE, but I was using too old a version of RebGUI 
it seems.
Is the "How to create a RebGUI 0.3.0 widget" no longer valid? I can't 
make it work with RebGUI 0.4.2, but it says nothing about not being 
compatible anywhere...
DISPLAY will not recognize any elements I add to ctx-rebgui/widgets
Graham
11-Jul-2006
[4362]
are they being included into the source when you create distro?
Henrik
11-Jul-2006
[4363x2]
I'm doing no such thing. I thought you could pad them as written 
in the manual?
ah... turns out I was also supposed to append the word to ctx-rebgui/words
Graham
11-Jul-2006
[4365]
This is your toolbar?
Henrik
11-Jul-2006
[4366x2]
yes
renamed to icon-bar, not to confuse it with the existing toolbar-
Graham
11-Jul-2006
[4368]
so, working now?
Henrik
11-Jul-2006
[4369x5]
nope, I need to find a replacement to layout/tight
which basically should be display without needing a title and just 
the block...
display => 'display
interestingly, if I try to use 'layout in my toolbar widget, REBOL 
crashes promptly.
is there a method to display a layout inside another layout?
Pekr
11-Jul-2006
[4374x3]
can list-box work in mode as in html forms? You simply select value, 
and key is returned instead?
(it was request of my friend who is not here, I actually don't know 
what he means exactly ...)
why drop-list does not exceed the border of owning app window?
Anton
11-Jul-2006
[4377x3]
Henrik, yes since then Rebgui was rearranged a bit.
Pekr, the drop-list would have to be a window itself to do that.
Henrik, you now have to add your widget's name to the total list 
of widgets, since rebgui-layout.r revision 16,  like this:

	append ctx-rebgui/words 'my-rebgui-widget

(I'm updating the doc)
Henrik
11-Jul-2006
[4380]
excellent
Anton
11-Jul-2006
[4381x2]
Doc updated. http://home.wilddsl.net.au/anton/rebol/doc/create-a-rebgui-widget.html
See the problems caused by documentation ? *See* ! ?
Henrik
11-Jul-2006
[4383]
documentation is vital, however, at least there *is* documentation. 
:-)
Anton
11-Jul-2006
[4384]
No... *source* is vital. Documentation is a mere reflection.
Pekr
11-Jul-2006
[4385]
Anton - are you sure? :-) I just looked lately at the source, and 
there seems to be one param -inbound, or outbound, for drop-list 
.... inbound is set by default. Separate window - why? We have show-popup 
...
Anton
11-Jul-2006
[4386]
Pretty sure, unless I misunderstand you (I didn't look at the source). 
 How can a rebol/view face hang over the edge, overlapping its parent 
window ?
Pekr
11-Jul-2006
[4387]
maybe it can?
Anton
11-Jul-2006
[4388x4]
It would not be *in* the window, then. It would have to be a new 
window or layer of some kind, supplied by the OS.
(rebol would have to get the new layer from the OS so it could do 
that.)
I've made a pop-menu which uses borderless windows. It works on WinXP 
but the problem is we can't guarantee that windows on other platforms 
don't have forced decorations on their windows.
so each menu level would look less like a menu and more like a window.
Pekr
11-Jul-2006
[4392]
but we have working examples of menu/context menu, which look awesome 
....
Anton
11-Jul-2006
[4393]
So you're just saying you'd like the drop-list to also use borderless 
windows in its implementation.
Graham
11-Jul-2006
[4394]
This is a problem with drop lists. I thought though that this was 
one problem Cyphre was tackling
Pekr
11-Jul-2006
[4395x3]
uh, the Trac is really a stupid system .... damned, where have we 
moved? Can this system produce some simplistic way of how to get 
particular widget source? Without line numbering? That is just crazy 
....
uf, there is, at the very bottom ... that system is pretty denerving 
for normal typical user, who is not a developer, and can't get easily 
to source of widgets, as rebgui.r comes in despaced version ...
hmm, you are probably right, Anton ... just downloaded drop-list.r, 
changed 'inline to 'outline, but nothing changed, it can't go outside 
the parent window ... (which is maybe logical, as everything lives 
in screen-face/app-window/pane .... unless show-popup does not allow 
for other modes ...
Anton
11-Jul-2006
[4398]
If it is within a window face it can't go outside, with rebol/view 
system as it is currently.
Pekr
11-Jul-2006
[4399]
hmm, and if it would be put in screen face directly?