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[!RebGUI] A lightweight alternative to VID

Volker
21-May-2006
[3746x2]
Ah! No, tabbing in rebgui seems to be very smart. For now does not 
work with iterated faces, say the comments.
Some good choices for the general case in rebgui, from my starter-POV.
Anton
21-May-2006
[3748]
That's understandable.
Volker
21-May-2006
[3749x3]
;is this ok? vertical tab
display "Example" compose [
    button "a" [alert "hi"] field "a" return 
    button "b" field "b" return 
    do [
        out: copy [] 
        append out extract face/pane 2 
        append out extract next face/pane 2 
        insert clear face/pane out
    ]
]
Is there  interest in an editor-field which supports find/replace 
etc?
And do we have undo?
Ashley
21-May-2006
[3752]
Yes to the first question and http://www.dobeash.com/RebGUI/edit.html#section-3
to the second ;)
Volker
21-May-2006
[3753x2]
Good answer :)
But is that rebolish, available exhaustive docs?! :)
Maarten
21-May-2006
[3755]
It isn't, shame on Ashley.
Ashley
22-May-2006
[3756]
Wiki WidgetList updated and completed (finally): http://trac.geekisp.com/rebgui/wiki/WidgetList
Pekr
22-May-2006
[3757x2]
Anton - as for the get-rebgui, if you are the author, you could check 
following - Bobik's situation was, that he used latest View, the 
script showed following:

connecting to: www.dobeash.com
Script: "RebGUI update system" (21-Feb-2006)
Local RebGUI version ==> none
Remote directory ======> http://www.dobeash.com/RebGUI/

Local directory =======> c:\documents and settings\user-name-here\data 
aplikací\rebol\public\www.dobeash.com\RebGUI
Downloading manifest ==> OK


the thing is - above directory does not exist, nor was it created 
by the get-rebgui script .... so the thing is, what happened then. 
It did not start downloading particular widgets though ...
I wonder where View took the above directory from? Does it rely on 
registry? Or does it ask just OS for the current user data directory? 
Or? .... strange ...
BrianH
22-May-2006
[3759]
It's in the registry, and expressed as an environment variable APPDATA 
as well.
Anton
22-May-2006
[3760x2]
It gets it from view-root, which is the public sandbox directory, 
used by path-thru etc. as usual.
Yes, view-root gets its value from the registry.
Graham
22-May-2006
[3762]
Is there a no-wrap option for area?
BrianH
22-May-2006
[3763]
At install time, the initial default value of view-root is set to 
%APPDATA%\REBOL
Anton
22-May-2006
[3764x2]
Pekr, was there no error message ? or was "Downloading manifest ==> 
OK" the last line of output ?
Ashley, can you add get-rebgui.r into SVN as well ?
Pekr
22-May-2006
[3766x2]
ah, so .... so actually you can't know, if user has installed View 
or not .... but it should not mind .... maybe small check then would 
cure the situation? if view-root does not exist, create it ...
last line output ... no error ....
BrianH
22-May-2006
[3768]
The other trick is telling whether a specific user has View set up 
on a multiuser system. There are still some multiuser-unfriendly 
bugs in the REBOL/View installer, mostly for backwards compatibility 
with View 1.2 registry settings. At least the file handling has been 
made multiuser safe - we'll see if REBOL 3 solves the rest of the 
problems.
Pekr
22-May-2006
[3769]
the problems were described ... in general we should be able to have 
choice to install for a) all users b) one particular user .... and 
with uninstall to a) keep private data b) remove data .... uninstall 
is flawed though, as when you uninstall, the icon is removed from 
control panel and other user has no option to uninstall ... or you 
remove the rebol even when other user did not agree to :-)
BrianH
22-May-2006
[3770]
The main problem is where in the registry REBOL stores its settings. 
There are per-user settings and per-machine settings, and REBOL stores 
many of both in the wrong places in the registry. The details of 
this are once again off topic, though.
Anton
22-May-2006
[3771x3]
Pekr, try running the script again. Are you launching it like this?
do http://www.dobeash.com/get-rebgui.r
By the way, Ashley, I think get-rebgui.r should be moved into RebGUI/ 
directory so everything is self-contained. It's not going to affect 
the end user, since they don't download it.
Ashley
22-May-2006
[3774]
can you add get-rebgui.r into SVN
 ... done
should be moved into RebGUI/ directory
 ... on the list
Pekr
22-May-2006
[3775]
Anton - posted to Bobik, I will let you know ...
Anton
22-May-2006
[3776]
Thankyou Ashley.
Graham
22-May-2006
[3777]
Robert, is the tree widget you've asked Cyphre to create near completion 
yet?  I think maybe it might be useful for the request-directory 
widget.
Ashley
22-May-2006
[3778]
I'll second that.
Thør
22-May-2006
[3779]
.
Graham
23-May-2006
[3780]
A mind blank here ... what am I doing wrong ?

>> do %rebgui.r
Script: "Untitled" (none)
>> i: load %skype.png
== make image! [21x21 #{
FBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFB
FBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBF...
>> display "" [ image i ]
** Script Error: Cannot use path on none! value
** Where: init
** Near: size/x: image/size/x
Anton
23-May-2006
[3781]
image data i   ?
Graham
23-May-2006
[3782]
nope
Anton
23-May-2006
[3783]
display "" compose [image (logo.gif)]
Graham
23-May-2006
[3784]
works .. why should it need compose ?
Anton
23-May-2006
[3785]
That's rebgui -
Graham
23-May-2006
[3786]
the docs need changing then?
Anton
23-May-2006
[3787]
you tell me.
Graham
23-May-2006
[3788]
Yes, needs updating.
Ashley
23-May-2006
[3789]
display "" [image %skype.png] also works


http://trac.geekisp.com/rebgui/wiki/WidgetList#imageis pretty clear 
(needs a file! or image! *not* a word!)
Graham
23-May-2006
[3790x2]
Hmm.  i, in the above example, is of type image!
How about creating an examples directory, and link to that for each 
widget?  This would remove any confusion that others may also have.
Ashley
23-May-2006
[3792]
Probably better to provide a small example under each widget description. 
Updated the above Wiki entry. How about that?
Graham
23-May-2006
[3793]
It might be cleaner to do it the way I suggested, but anything that 
illuminates helps :)
Ashley
25-May-2006
[3794]
Latest SVN change (Rev#16) now uses reduce/only to evaluate words 
/ paths without the need for compose. This allows code like:

display "" [
	image i
	bar my-width
	field my-data/field1
	...
]

to be written. It still does not allow inline expressions like:

display "" [
	text my-width - 3 form now/date
	text (my-width - 3) (form now/date)
]


although I'm working on adding support for the later(parenthesized) 
form. As a side note, this is a bit of a shift in my position. I 
used to be of the opinion that explicit declaration via compose was 
more efficient than implicit declaration; but it turns out to be 
less efficient in a number of ways:

	Coding: requires extensive use of compose/deep and parenthesis

 Obviousness: it's not obvious why code like "image my-image" doesn't 
 work

 Complexity: forcing use of compose/deep makes it harder to write 
 action blocks inline [that need themselves to use compose]
	Familiarity: It's not the way VID or other dialects work

 Speed: compose/deep is actually slower than reduce/only and a few 
 subsequent parenthesis reductions


You can thank Graham's comments above as the catalyst to change. 
;)
Graham
25-May-2006
[3795]
Ahhhggg...