World: r3wp

because it basically sets out to solve all shortcomings of web2.0 
apps, while staying in the browser/internet metaphor.

Henrik: so all those nice Rebol R3 GUIs are supposed to work online 
? Really ?

kib, you can also use the Viewtop to let others run your programs, 
but with adding your site under Public/Sites/. If you click the "Goto" 
menu button, you can enter an URL for an index.r file, you have somewhere 
on the internet. And from there launch your programs.

with = without

they already do. you can do all this the same way in R2 by going 
to the console and typing:

do http://www.somewhere.com/script.r

the browser will just present the scripts a little differently.

Geomol: that's really cool. And inside my index.r, I just have to 
write the references to all my rebol scripts ?

An index.r file can look like this:
http://home9.inet.tele.dk/johnn/index.r

You can have references to REBOL script, but also to HTML pages, 
documents, images, etc etc.

Geomol: that's really simple.

yes, REBOL is really simple! :-)

From your two points of view, should I start playing with R2 or switch 
to R3 direclty (even if it's buggy)?

So you can think of the Viewtop as kind of a browser, than can link 
together content from all over the internet.

Start with R2. If you have time left, look at R3 too.

I agree with Geomol. You probably probably won't bump into too many 
shortcomings in R2 this early.

Ok, so I've prepared some Rebol lectures for tonight. I have to go. 
Let me thank you for your kindness, and I hope to see you soon here.

A lot of what you do will run in R3 too. GUI have some changes, but 
you can go develop final programs in R2 now.

have fun!

Bye!

bye kib!

yes R2 is a viable tool for commercial apps, Ive done a few.

have fun kib :-)

You know, that is interesting looking back at the ViewTop.  It's 
not something I played with and have even forgotten about.  I'll 
need to relook at that.

it creates a nice little desktop.

If the Viewtop could handle bookmarks in a good way (like a browser), 
and if there was a nice utility to manage index.r files, it might 
be something.

I'm trying to encap a script but I keep getting error: Cannot load 
file:


THe program runs fine and loading it does not seem to produce any 
errors.

Any suggestions?

using rebface I get a sytax error for the following:


 if s/x > cell_sizes/:c/x [cell_sizes/:c: s cell_matrix/:c: reduce 
 [r c]]

Syntax Error: Invalid word -- :c:

What is another way to write that?

Used poke


if s/x > cell_sizes/:c/x [poke cell_sizes c s poke cell_matrix c 
reduce [r c]]

seems to work...

No errors in rebface

Got it to Encap...

but I just get a console window with the code scrolling through...

I was able to catch the top of the output:

I think there is an error in mysql-protocol.r
MZ has no value....

Anyone else have a problem encaping mysql-protocol.r?

Can't find a refernec to MZ in mysql-protocol or my program

refernec = reference

cell_sizes/(c):

Is a valid set-path...

Thanks Chris...

The order of the include files seems to have an effect the error...


I moved the rebol mezz functions to the begining and now I get this 
error:

** Script Error: user-prefs has no value
** Where: vbug
** Near: if not dbg: user-prefs/debug [exit]

no

you have to create that object ... it's a long standing sdk bug

EVery time I move the includes around I get a different error message...

so, if encapping anything with view

user-prefs: [ debug: false ]

I think the error only occurs if you use request-download or similar

I did have an include with request-download but I removed it as I 
thought that might be causing a prob...
But I'm getting other errors related to the includes

what are your include statements?

#INCLUDE %"/C/Program Files/rebol/rebol-sdk/source/mezz.r"
#INCLUDE %"/C/Program Files/rebol/rebol-sdk/source/prot.r"
#INCLUDE %"/C/Program Files/rebol/rebol-sdk/source/view.r"

#INCLUDE %sqlite.r
#INCLUDE %mysql-protocol.r
;#INCLUDE %updater.r


;#INCLUDE %include.r
;#INCLUDE %window.r

;#INCLUDE %scroll-panel.r
;#INCLUDE %scroll-wheel-handler.r
#INCLUDE-binary %fd_shield.jpg
#INCLUDE-files %data [guest.db demo_template.db]
;#INCLUDE %sqlite3.dll

#INCLUDE-binary %fd_shield.jpg  ???

How about the dll?
Should that be -binary too?

you can't just include a binary file

#INCLUDE-binary %fd_shield.jpg  ???

This is according to manual if you want to keep the image compressed 
uuntil used

I don't think so.

what do the docs actually say?