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| Volker 4-Feb-2005 [331] | Found a tool for css and firefox. Opens an editor in the sidebar with css for the main-page. and updates main-page on the fly on edit. https://addons.update.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?application=firefox&version=1.0&os=MacOSX&category=DeveloperTools&numpg=10&id=179>EditCSS |
| Chris 4-Feb-2005 [332] | Volker, I'm not certain, but it may have been incorporated into this extension: http://www.chrispederick.com/work/firefox/webdeveloper/ |
| Pekr 4-Feb-2005 [333x3] | Could anyone help me to understand following? We currently don't have time write own webshop, so few of our dealers offered us to be hosted. We simply want, that ppl visiting our hosted website would still see only http://www.xidyscomp.czin the url bar and not - http://xidys.ekatalog.biz/katalog.aspx |
One of my friends suggested me to use frames trick as can be seen here - http://pes.eunet.cz, but I don't know what URL, redirection etc should I see where ... maybe the trick is in calling dynamic script (here php), so user will not be able to recognise real domain? | |
I would like to know, what is second frame tag for, referring to /no.html and when can I obtain message of "your browser does not support frames" - is there any browser not supporting frames? (talking about source of http://pes.eunet.cz) | |
| Chris 4-Feb-2005 [336] | Are you using Apache? |
| Pekr 4-Feb-2005 [337] | yes |
| Chris 4-Feb-2005 [338x2] | You could create an .htaccess file with the following: |
DirectoryIndex katalog.aspx | |
| Pekr 4-Feb-2005 [340] | that is all? :-) What will it do? How will it work? |
| Chris 4-Feb-2005 [341] | I believe it is a simple alternative to %index.html being the default document... |
| Pekr 4-Feb-2005 [342] | well, but katalog.aspx is on different server ... |
| Chris 4-Feb-2005 [343] | Ah, I didn't notice that. In that case you could use mod_rewrite, I think... |
| Pekr 4-Feb-2005 [344x5] | mod_rewrite? Never used something like that ... so shold I edit httpd.conf? |
<HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>NEVIDITELNÝ PES</TITLE> <FRAMESET rows="*,0" frameborder=0 framespacing=0 border=0> <FRAME SRC="./index.php3"> </FRAME> <FRAME scrolling=no SRC="./no.html"> </FRAME> <NOFRAMES> Your browser does not support frames, please click <a href="./index.php3">here</a> ! </NOFRAMES> </FRAMESET> </HEAD> <BODY> </BODY> </HTML> | |
why is there second frame tag, referring to no.html? | |
I got it working with links inside FRAME tag ... but what should I put into rebol cgi script to hide target site URL? I mean - <FRAME SRC="/cgi-bin/shop-redir.cgi"> - what should I put into rebol script to redirect it to target site? | |
some time ago I used some meta redirect tag syntax, but I can't remember it right now ... | |
| Chris 4-Feb-2005 [349x4] | http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/mod/mod_alias.html#redirectmatch -- This would also go in .htaccess |
http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/mod/mod_alias.html#redirect | |
Redirect / http://xidys.ekatalog.biz/katalog.aspx | |
There's lots of server-side options with Apache... | |
| Pekr 4-Feb-2005 [353x2] | and if I use multiple virtual domain? hmm, that should not matter .... |
so user will not see target adress in url bar with redirect? | |
| Chris 4-Feb-2005 [355] | I don't know -- haven't tried it. |
| Pekr 4-Feb-2005 [356x3] | hmm, tried redirect, it does not keep original url .... |
going back to frames trick ... | |
just need to find out, how to handle it in rebol cgi script .... | |
| Sunanda 4-Feb-2005 [359] | You put the "your browser does not support" message in the noframes section. Many elderly browsers don't support them. All modern ones do -- though support can be turned off as a user-selected option. Search engines are still very patchy at indexing frames -- and that is unlikley to get better given the inherent problems with frames |
| Pekr 4-Feb-2005 [360x3] | I now need to solve that redirection issue. I really don't know what should I put into rebol cgi script to return in above source, so that I could use <FRAME SRC="/cgi-bin/shop-redir.cgi"> |
I want that url to be returned internally by rebol cgi script, so that displaying source of main site will not reveal target site ... | |
If i put short html source with meta tag and redirection, I get endless loop of redirects ... | |
| Gabriele 4-Feb-2005 [363x3] | petr: so the people hosting the shop do not offer you the ability to have your own domain name? |
anyway - from your server you could create a reverse proxy. this is not very efficient (browser > your server > shop server instead of browser > shop server for all requests), but to the user it will really look like the shop is on your server (noone would be able to tell the difference) | |
alternatively, use frames as you do; though, this way users have no way to link to a specific page in your shop, because all urls are hidden. | |
| Pekr 4-Feb-2005 [366x2] | yes, I know - the links part is not good of course, but I prefer shadowing of domain ... If there would be way how to do that using mod_rewrite, I would like to use it, but looking at Apache docs I am not able to tell if something like that is possible ... |
now the only problem for me is, that in above code, I want to call cgi, so that looking at frame source target site is not easily revealed .... | |
| Gabriele 5-Feb-2005 [368x7] | petr: it's possible to crate a reverse proxy even without using mod_rewrite. you'll need mod_rewrite only if you want to somewhat change the urls to make them look different |
example from the apache docs (2.0): | |
ProxyPass /mirror/foo/ http://backend.example.com/ ProxyPassReverse /mirror/foo/ http://backend.example.com/ | |
you'd use: | |
ProxyPass / http://xidys.ekatalog.biz/ ProxyPassReverse / http://xidys.ekatalog.biz/ | |
as long as they're not using absolute urls in the html, noone would notice that it's not your server which is serving the requests. | |
you have the disadvantage sadi above though... | |
| Pekr 5-Feb-2005 [375] | Thanks Gabriele. I should mention why I do need it. The problem is, that some big distributors cheat on their sub-distributors. Together with few shops we found out, that although they allow to use their part of portal, some customers are clever, find out what shop it is in reality and they go directly to the parent shop and get the same price as from us. That is indeed bad behavior on their part as their partly ruin our business, but we can't do nothing about it. I will do my own shop, but as a whole system. I will describe architecture later ... |
| eFishAnt 5-Feb-2005 [376x2] | are there ANY decent web browsers that can print a page on a sheet without cropping long lines? What is the best way to insure this? (IE, FF, Opera....all rubbish!!!) |
maybe the only solution is to design one in REBOL... | |
| Pekr 5-Feb-2005 [378x2] | What is wrong with FF or Mozilla print preview? |
I never got cropped long lines, it should wrap | |
| Henrik 5-Feb-2005 [380] | but is printing working properly with Rebol yet? |
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