World: r3wp

angular is a js library which interprets special tags, attributes 
and element values in the dom and sets up an event handler system 
behind the scenes which keeps model objects in sync w the dom content 
(back and forth)

wow, the new FF really is annoying  :-)


what is it with browser makers... they just keep making their stuff 
more and more aggravating to use.

ah, I just put back some toolbars which are off by default... making 
a bit more sense.

u seem to be a prisoner of your habits. toolbars? in a browser? what 
is the good for? :)

finally i dont have to start with turning off the bookmarks bar on 
a fresh install. most ppl dont use it anyway... and probably FF maker 
have *measuered* this. and giving more space for the content worth 
more than bookmarking

don't get me wrong, I like that FF is conscious about screen real 
estate.... its just that opening a window with no buttons, is a bit 
drastic.  I hate pulldown menus because they are extremely slow.

so why not use keyboard shortcuts?

bah, I've learnt so many keyboard shortcuts in my life (with a past 
in vfx and innumerable 3d & fx softwares ;-) that my memory for such 
things is pretty full.

yeah, I know what you mean, but a browser is such a constantly used 
tool that a few shortcuts are worth memorizing, IMO

http://code.google.com/p/js-test-driver/
this seems to be some serious shit...

the guy who is writing the angular.js framework can run 300 unit 
tests in 400ms on the 10K lines code base.

I have a question regarding fonts on web-sites: Take a look at this 
one here: http://www.binaryage.com/


It uses a font called PLAY which I like a lot. This font wasn't installed 
on my system, but the web-site displayed it. It's even not one of 
the standard web fonts I know. Why does this work?

I did just quick look at the site and it seems it uses this service 
http://fontdeck.com

Seems to work via Google as well: http://www.google.com/webfonts/family?family=Play&subset=latin#code

yes, the google api is probably using the fontdeck site internaly.

Also such fonts will work properly only in newer browsers..the binariage 
site looks terribly in IE8 for example.

IE9 looks the same as Safari, no problems.

I just noted that so you know. It depends how much you care about 
the backward compatibility etc.

Yep... thx. It should work for most people of course.

The Googel Webfonts home page drives my Firefox 3.5 into a crash 
loop

im wondering what is the best way of providing permalinks for mechanical 
parts, like pipe fittings.
i'd like to provide a catalog of them for a couple of companies.

each company has their own part number system which unambigously 
identifies a product. i would expose a description page about these 
as:
/company/part-number

it would however look cryptic and wouldn't empasize what is that 
page about, so we were thinking about attaching a slug to it, to 
help human usage and search engines too.

Q1: im not very sure about how much more effective from a SEO point 
of view to have a slug in the URL as opposed to keywords in meta 
tags and the same description as in the title of the page for example.

Q2: would it be okay to add the slug as an extra  path level, like 
stackoverflow.com does?

Search engines don't use meta keywords anymore

Q3: do u know any article describing best practices regarding permalinks/slugs?

A structured description in a title tag would be OK, but it seems 
that URLs help extra

I use a unique identifier such as a date, followed by a textual description 
in the rest of the URL

it's not a news site, so there might be issues with the unqueness 
of the slug and other things like, i might need to display the nominal 
size of the part which is a fraction in many cases, lile 1-1/4" which 
wouldnt read nice at all if i have to replace the slash. the dbl 
quote might be okay to omit though

Yes, readability is a problem, so URLs are often more optimised for 
search engines than for human readers

1/4" would be 0.25-inch

No, it;s two hoon in this part of the world.

http://typekit.com/

do u specify the slug manually or let some automatism hint u with 
a possibility 1st?

I just have an extra field short-name

But you have to train your users on it

Well, I've been using rebol for 11 years, but never have used altme 
for support. But I have a

OOPS! I have a problem send email with authentication required. using 
the following

set-net [[tim-:-mydomain-:-com] mail.mydomain.com mail.mydomain.com none 
none none [tim-:-mydomain-:-com] '*******'] where 'mydomain' replaces my 
domain and asterisk obfuscate the password, if I send a message I 
get the following : connecting to: mail.mydomain.com

** User Error: Server error: tcp 503 AUTH command used when not advertised
** Near: smtp-port: open [scheme: 'esmtp] 
either only

Have I used set-net properly? :) the ML appears to have died. I find 
this very cumbersome for sharing code. Any other place for support?

Tim, click the pencil, then you can easily share multiple lines of 
code.

http://rebolforum.com

got it Kaj and been there. Will use.

And thanks Henrik. I see the pencil. Any ideas anyone?

Following is error trace.

>> send [tim-:-akwebsoft-:-com] "testing rebol"                        
                                             
Net-log: ["Opening" "tcp" "for" "esmtp"]
connecting to: mail.akwebsoft.com
Net-log: [none "220"]

Net-log: {220-host266.hostmonster.com ESMTP Exim 4.76 #1 Sun, 09 
Oct 2011 11:45:39 -0600 }

Net-log: {220-We do not authorize the use of this system to transport 
unsolicited, }
Net-log: "220 and/or bulk e-mail."
Net-log: [["HELO" system/network/host] "250"]
Net-log: {250 host266.hostmonster.com Hello bart [64.4.232.191]}
Net-log: ["AUTH CRAM-MD5" "334"]
Net-log: ["WARNING! Using plain authentication."]

Net-log: [{AUTH PLAIN dGltQGFrd2Vic29mdC5jb20AdGltQGFrd2Vic29mdC5jb20AdEhqMTk0OSc=} 
    "235"
]

** User Error: Server error: tcp 503 AUTH command used when not advertised
** Near: smtp-port: open [scheme: 'esmtp] 
either only

The rebol client should send "EHLO" and not "HELO"

As a result, the servere does not advertise any authentication methods

Maybe you're using an old esmtp protocol .. as mine sends EHLO

>> set-net [[tim-:-akwebsoft-:-com] mail.akwebsoft.com mail.akwebsoft.com 
none none none [tim-:-akwebsoft-:-com] "****" ]
>> send [tim-:-akwebsoft-:-com] "testing"
Net-log: ["Opening" "tcp" "for" "esmtp"]
connecting to: mail.akwebsoft.com
Net-log: [none "220"]

Net-log: {220-host266.hostmonster.com ESMTP Exim 4.76 #1 Sun, 09 
Oct 2011 12:00:11 -0600 }

Net-log: {220-We do not authorize the use of this system to transport 
unsolicited, }
Net-log: "220 and/or bulk e-mail."
Net-log: [["EHLO" system/network/host] "250"]

Net-log: {250-host266.hostmonster.com Hello Graham-PC [203.97.98.9]}
Net-log: "250-SIZE 52428800"
Net-log: "250-PIPELINING"
Net-log: "250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN"
Net-log: "250-STARTTLS"
Net-log: "250 HELP"
Net-log: ["Supported auth methods:" [plain login]]
Net-log: ["WARNING! Using AUTH LOGIN."]
Net-log: [
    "AUTH LOGIN" "334"
]
Net-log: "334 VXNlcm5hbWU6"
Net-log: ["dGltQGFrd2Vic29mdC5jb20=" "334"]
Net-log: "334 UGFzc3dvcmQ6"
Net-log: ["KioqKg==" "235"]

** User Error: Server error: tcp 535 Incorrect authentication data
** Near: smtp-port: open [scheme: 'esmtp]
either only

Not sure what to do about the 'old protocol'. Is there a way to change 
it? I'm using 2.6.2.4.2