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Nah.  We can add anyone to the escrow at any time.

Of course, for some companies, we use it to negociate a better sale.

got to go. good chat. bye

Bye.

rejoin

Is it possible to make money from it and have it open source at the 
same time?

 Demonstrate where your solution(s) add value and then provide a service 
 (instllation, training, support, customization, etc) that folks need 
 / want to be able to use your "free" software effectively. I've said 
 this to a few people here already, but I've made quite a few dollars 
 selling OpenOffice installation and support to folks ... what's important 
 is the relationship you build with your customer(s); the fact that 
 you can under bid a proprietary solution and still make better margin 
 is just icing on the cake. ;)

Also, you have demostrated this by releasing RebDB and RebGUI. Which 
I believe are components of some of your commercial applications.

Correct. In this case I bundle various "free" components (RebDB, 
SQLite, RebGUI, AbiWord, etc) into a *solution* that people are prepared 
to pay for. My customers know the individual components are freely 
available, what they are paying for is a working application "distro".

perhaps you need this carl -> https://euronode.com/On demand Iso-image 
 building online for debian...

Owwww forget it !!! the fee is 175 Dollars...

example:
ISO20060306174904

Debian GNU/Linux system                         100.00 Euros

Unix Tools                                       25.00 Euros
- CD Recorder                                     5.00 Euros
- DVD+RW Recorder                                 5.00 Euros
- ISO FS maker                                    5.00 Euros
- GNU GCC compiler                                5.00 Euros
- GNU GDB debugger                                5.00 Euros
- Python language                                 5.00 Euros
- Ruby language                                   5.00 Euros
- NMAP security scanner                           5.00 Euros
- Tcpdump traffic dumper                          5.00 Euros
- Vi IMproved                                     5.00 Euros
============================================================
TOTAL                                           175.00 Euros

Special offer : 140.00 euros !

hahah quick money though...

thats in euro's not dollars... Man for that money I can buy a complete 
server...

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FYI: The Debian version of /view and /Core run out of the box on 
Slackware 10.2 ...

how does View run - no glitches in interface, events. ... ?

MMMm i tested with the demo directory from within Desktop... Looked 
oke though??? Do you have suspission anywhere?

I also run the debian-version of Altme currently on my slackware 
machine.. Looks fine..

no, I don't have x-windows powered linux here ... I was just curious, 
as there were some features not supported iirc? but maybe I am confused 
because of os-x version ... well, agg does not use fonts, but dunno 
if true or not ...

yes true... No Fonts under linux from the Draw dialect... a shame 
realy ;-) But its just runs fine...

The library's from debian are pretty straghtforward..and thus many 
linux distributions should be able to run that too..If not they they 
have a problem and not rebol...

Just tried the latest View for Linux(debian build) and it works OK 
under Mepis Linux here.

Rebolinth: the fonts are supported by DRAW dialect but you have to 
specify full absolute path to the font at the moment.(we are investigating 
better solution for this)

simple example:

Well yess this 1.1.29 'new' clean installation is running fine here 
too.. the last installation i did in the old 0.42 altme directory..so 
that was realy messy..

REALY??? tell me...

fnt1: make face/font [
	name: "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/freefont/FreeSans.ttf"
	size: 32
]
fnt2: make face/font [

 name: "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/freefont/FreeSansBoldOblique.ttf"
	size: 64
]

view layout [
	origin 0
	box snow 400x100 effect [
		draw [
			pen black
			font fnt1
			text anti-aliased 0x0 "Rebol Rulez!"
			pen blue yellow
			fill-pen red
			line-pattern 10 10
			line-width 2
			font fnt2
			text vectorial 0x30 "Rebol Rulez!"
		]
	]
]

Shoot me if that is working !!

hold on

NOTE: you migth want to change the font paths accordint to your specific 
Linux distro.

yes yes.. But why isnt that noted down in the docs ;-) Mannnnnnnnnn 
I installed WindowXP for that feature...

This sould work on all releases which needs the libfreetype.so library.

It is an experimental feature as the font name definition surely 
change in future.

oke..im testing it..so far only black screens... Must it be FreeSans?

or just any TTF ?

have a look in your directory, see what's there.

yes yes ;-)

but so far none of the vera or arial or sans ttf fonts did show up...However 
rebol does not give me a warnign so it now upto the right font it 
seems..

you need to find a path to your fonts and you can use any ttf font. 
I don't know what YALN(yet another Linux distro) are you running 
;)

ups YALD :)

Well.. I use the Freetype for some time now.. it even works with 
my GTK applications.. somehow it does not show up... Im using slackware..

BTW I was succesful with using Vera.ttf rendering under OpenBSD.

oke.. with 32 and 64 in size ?

It is vectorial font so I guess this shouldn't be a problem but you 
can try other sizes or other fonts??

I think i donit see anything because i dont have any Xfd running..though 
it should be integrated wiith the latest X11 .. mmm.. let me fight 
on this one a little.. Thank for the HINT.. ill let it know if it 
runs (Must get this to work..;-)

OK, let me know how it went. Thanks.

Its strange.. I should not be needing to run a fontserver..My desktop 
is already anti-aliased with fonts and so it the rest..But rebol 
still does not display it... mmm It does load the font though..(also 
when i look with an Strace during the execute rebol does read the 
font..) it simply does not display it ..yet! ;-)

>> probe fnt1

make object! [
    name: "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/VeraMono.ttf"
    style: none
    size: 32
    color: 0.0.0
    offset: 2x2
    space: 0x0
    align: 'center
    valign: 'center
    shadow: none
]

i think i see..l.b.b

Cyphre..are those bitstream fonts you are using? I dont seem to get 
ttf working or ANY other font working in my linux view version beside 
the default fonts...