World: r3wp

Kaj: BTW Congratulations on achieving a fast GUI at the OS! Even 
Oberon/A2 GUI is slower---though A2 uses bigger screen resolution.

I had like 800x600 mode at Syllable vesa.

A2 Aka Native Bluebottle

Fetching all the development stuff and the desktop 0.6.6 source code... 
My MMV.

Was unable to copy kernel log to external filesystem mounted in rw 
mode.

It detects a PS2 AUX (mouse) port but fails to do smthings with a 
PS2 mouse a number of times.

Thanks. :-) It would be a lot faster still if your video card were 
supported

How is your external file system formatted? Did you get an error 
message?

ntfs "Permission denied" (cp command gave this msg)

I did a "cp -v file file"

I mean file1 file2

And I was under root

It would be interesting to have more elaborate -vv mode at some variant 
of a cp command...

Installable on demand or by will.

I will unpack mc with a hope it gives a more elaborate message.

Though that message is probably reported by a file system driver, 
it could have a variant with more elavorated messages (i.e. more 
bloated driver).

-d

I.e. explaingin why it was denied.

BTW where's the best place to report those bugs: on http://forum.syllable.org/viewforum.php?f=4
or here?

To mount ntfs, I used "mount /dev/disk/ata/hda/1 ~/media/m1/ -w" 
and the fs became readable and dirs were searchable

I could move all these bug reports into a topic.

Into several topics at that 4 forum.

Also, bug: "cd ~/ntfs_partition_mounted/<TAB><TAB>" displays Cyrillic 
letters of file names OK (as a list), but "ls <the same folder>" 
gives ????????? instead of cyrillic letters.

Seems to be bug in ls.

mc reports Permission denied (13). /var/log/kernel reports assertion 
failure in ntfs_clear_inode under ntfs_write_inode : kfree of memory 
that was not kmalloc-ed. And subsequent failures in a form of stack 
traces.

These subsequent failures also related to ntfs_clear_inode called 
from ntfs_write_inode.

Also got a Permission denied (13) while attempt to copy a kernel 
log file to ext3 partttion. Under root.

no stack traces this time, and no relevant messages found.

It may seem that I've found a sources glitch with my mouse. A kernel 
log reports "IMPS2 mouse found" which means that appserver/appserver/ps2mouse/ps2mouse.cpp 
detected an Intellimouse PS/2 mouse. Maybe developers had no Intellimouse 
to test stuff, therefore there's no code setting up the mouse for 
that clause. I.e. it gets detected, but there's no special init (which 
must be there), only the message is printed and the mouse protocol 
is not switched (it must be switched, I guess).

Searching for instructions to build sources tree.

Ahh very simple... build install Syllable. But that will fetch Syllable 
from a remote cvs, no?

I need to build my own hacked source tree

Ah found a doc.

Hmm. At http://development.syllable.org/documentation/drivers/index.html
there's no build instructions...

I'll fetch and install.sh a development build.

With a hope that build instructions will be there...

Ahh. "3.9 Building the Syllable base system" at http://syllable.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/syllable/syllable/system/apps/utils/Builder/README
: "At the time of writing, it is not possible to give a definitive
instruction for building the entire Syllable base system." :(((

At the time of writing, it is not possible to give a definitive
instruction 
for building the entire Syllable base system.
 :(((

AltME! Ate part of my text!

Hmm I'm completely lost in this README (at the url above). What should 
I do to recompile appserver/appserver/.../ps2mouse/ps2mouse.cpp ?

And to run the system with a modified ps2mouse.cpp ?

Kaj, waiting for your answer to the last two questions.

It seems there at ps2mouse.cpp init of Intellimouse is underwritten. 
It seems I understand which line the .cpp lacks.

I need to insert it and recompile and run.

Syllable can't write to NTFS, only read from it

http://web.syllable.org/pages/about.html#Desktop

FAT is the preferred format for exchanging data with other systems

Our forum is the designated place for reporting bugs. Here, basically 
only I will see it

We've had to block many mail domains from the forum, though, due 
to spambots, including gmail.com

ls is from GNU CoreUtils. Newer versions may have Unicode support, 
but we're stuck with our current version for now because newer ones 
require more support in Syllable