World: r3wp

Thanks. We made sure it would by having static pages, but on the 
other hand, the connection is not overly powerful at 10 Mb/s

The server is just a P3 650 MHz with 128 MB memory and an old 8 GB 
disk

It's running Cheyenne, possibly with QuarterMaster, FTP and an SSH 
server

If anyone here wants a test account on it, let me know

Very cool Kaj.

Thanks

It's taken a long time this time, but we released Syllable Desktop 
0.6.6

Many bugs were fixed, including several regressions from earlier 
releases. The window decorators don't destabilise the system anymore. 
The installation procedure is greatly enhanced with options to fix 
hardware support problems. The native web browser is replaced with 
Webster, based on a newer version of the WebKit engine. Many enhancements 
were made to standards support, leading, among others, to the ability 
to run QEmu - so now you can run virtual machines. The documentation 
was improved and several translations were added. Read more in the 
full release notes: http://downloads.syllable.org/Syllable/i586/systems/Desktop/0.6.6/README-SyllableDesktop-0.6.6.txt
ISO CD images, (VMware) emulator images, an upgrade pack and documentation 
are available from the download page: http://web.syllable.org/pages/get-Syllable.html
Extra software is available here: http://web.syllable.org/Syllable/downloads.html

Here's the announcement on OSNews:

http://www.osnews.com/story/21501/Syllable_0_6_6_Released

Is running in VirtualBox tested?

Yes. We have some conflicting reports about it, but it should work, 
using the boot entry we supply for it

On the other hand, VirtualBox is weird. VMware and QEmu often give 
better results

Maxim, the OpenGL situation in DirectFB is still quite unclear

DirectFB 2, with OpenGL support, still seems to be just a plan

There's an old OpenGL extension that was revived a year ago and then 
again not updated. If it works, it probably only supports hardware 
acceleration on one old video chip

So it looks like for some time to come, you will still need X11 for 
hardware accelerated OpenGL

ok

Software OpenGL should be possible on SDL, though, for testing or 
low speed requirements

I am connected running AltME on Syllable Server now

eh???  syllable server has a gui?

It has now :-)

I ported Nix as extra package manager and used that to install X11

Can it run Hylafax ?

Sure, if you compile it

I don' t think it' s in Nix

And rebol 2?

Been included with Syllable Server since the beginning, a few years 
now

cheyenne I guess is okay?

With X11 you could also run View now, but the X11 installation process 
is currently a lot of work

Using Cheyenne to run tens of websites here, including Try REBOL

Excellent news Kaj!

I really wish, I had more time, so I could also try this out. Well, 
hopefully some day, I'll see this in action.

Thanks!

Got R3 running through the host build on both Syllable Desktop and 
Syllable Server

Desktop is the wiley one, because it isn't supposed to work at all 
:-)

The R3 core library hasn't been ported to Desktop yet, but I'm using 
one of the Linux-built libraries as is, through a trick

why not?

Why it isn't supposed to work?

ah, I realize that you mean the format of the library used by syllable 
isn't normally linux .so files?

No, Syllable Desktop is not a Linux system at all

Most people seem to think that when Carl says the R3 library is portable, 
this means you need only one binary. This is not true at all

but using .so files doesn't depend on linux does it?  as long as 
the cpu matches... you should be able to connect into .so files (ifthe 
stack method used, corresponds obviously)

he told me that the host will be available as a .lib eventually. 
 (my guess is that will probably be the sdk).

The format of the binary is just that: the format. Even if many systems 
use ELF these days, the machine code instructions you store in that 
format are still very different

The same goes for a static library (which would be called .a on most 
systems). There are still system dependent machine instructions in 
them

Running on the same CPU architecture with the same machine instructions 
is also just that. Those machine instructions call system functions, 
so you need to provide those on the target system

Well, except in this case of Syllable Desktop, because it is very 
well aligned with Linux

R3 depends on the C library so far, and although the same library 
is used the versioning of those libraries is different between Linux 
and Syllable Desktop (and thus also between Syllable Server and Syllable 
Desktop)

Symlinking the required library versions sufficed to get it to work