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[Syllable] The free desktop and server operating system family

Graham
18-Sep-2008
[1712]
so, no gui then?
Kaj
18-Sep-2008
[1713]
Syllable GUI on Desktop, maybe a remote REBOL GUI on Server
Graham
18-Sep-2008
[1714]
A rebol gui thru ssh to the server?
Kaj
18-Sep-2008
[1715]
No, REBOL/Services
Graham
18-Sep-2008
[1716x2]
interesting
do you have time for a day job?
Kaj
18-Sep-2008
[1718x3]
Doing it all properly :-)
Haven't had for years, but will have to make time for it now
Getting good responses on the conferences
Robert
19-Sep-2008
[1721]
Kaj, please make a XEN DomU out of it. I will give it immediatly 
a try. I'm searching for a base distro that can be used to create 
a complete application stack.
Kaj
22-Sep-2008
[1722x4]
Uhm, I'll have to find out how to make that, first :-)
What we have been producing so far are VMware images that can be 
used in several virtualisers, with an unchanged Syllable Server installation
I think a Xen image would require the Syllable Server installation 
to support Xen in the kernel. Is that correct?
It will be extra work to figure this out, so it will take me some 
more time
Graham
22-Sep-2008
[1726]
or Robert can switch to using vmware.
Kaj
22-Sep-2008
[1727]
Yeah :-)
Graham
22-Sep-2008
[1728]
How's the dovecot port going?  :)
Kaj
22-Sep-2008
[1729x2]
Not. I'm still on the road
On the first conference we were invited to a 3D virtual worlds conference 
tomorrow in Amsterdam, with the ex CEO of Linden Labs and a university 
developing OpenCroquet speaking :-)
Graham
22-Sep-2008
[1731]
Don't road warriors carry laptops with them?  :)
Kaj
22-Sep-2008
[1732x2]
http://www.eduverse.org
Yeah, but ten year old laptops take a week to compile a modern Linux 
distro
Graham
22-Sep-2008
[1734]
a conference on virtual worlds should have their conference in a 
virtual world
Kaj
22-Sep-2008
[1735]
They're nice for running Syllable and REBOL, though, and demoing 
their efficiency
Mchean
22-Sep-2008
[1736]
opencroquet? the squeak project?
Kaj
22-Sep-2008
[1737]
Yup
Mchean
22-Sep-2008
[1738]
what did you think?
Kaj
22-Sep-2008
[1739]
I agree, and I thought of the irony that people in Amsterdam want 
everything to happen in Amsterdam
Graham
22-Sep-2008
[1740]
I guess they couldn't decide which platform to use
Kaj
22-Sep-2008
[1741]
I explained to them that REBOL is symbol based versus Smalltalk being 
object based, which makes it fundamentally more suitable for DSLs, 
and they understood right away
Graham
22-Sep-2008
[1742]
so, what's the relationship to 3D?
Kaj
22-Sep-2008
[1743]
Virtual worlds are 3D these days
Graham
22-Sep-2008
[1744]
I meant Syllable
Kaj
22-Sep-2008
[1745x3]
So it will still be a challenge to offer them REBOL solutions
Everyone I met on the conferences is building applications out of 
multiple diverse open source parts. I'm offering all of them to solve 
their integration issues by taking the boring parts out of their 
hands and integrating them in a custom Linux platform
They're all very interested
Graham
22-Sep-2008
[1748]
ok
shadwolf
22-Sep-2008
[1749]
kaj asus EEE PC  is your friend  ^^
BrianH
23-Sep-2008
[1750x2]
A friend of mine was having difficulty installing Syllable the other 
day. He runs VirtualBox, because he has had more luck with that than 
VMware Server. I explained why there would be differences between 
the two, but it would still be nice for both to be supported. I realize 
that there is not as much point to supporting VirtualBox as it is 
more like VMware Workstation, not Server. Still, it has better memory 
allocation characteristics than VMware.
He has a recent enough processor that it has virtualization extensions, 
so VirtualBox isn't bad on it.
Kaj
23-Sep-2008
[1752x5]
VirtualBox is weird. It has problems running Syllable and it has 
bad performance characteristics
It should work, though, but did he use the VirtualBox boot option?
Did he try Syllable Desktop or Syllable Server?
What were the symptoms and failure messages?
Alphe, EeePC is weird, too. It has some deviating hardware parts, 
so we don't support all hardware, yet. The shipped Xandros Linux 
also has some strange characteristics that make it hard to install 
other systems
shadwolf
23-Sep-2008
[1757x2]
deviant you mean more or less than usual laptop muwwwwwwwahahahahaha 
...
I remember the old days when i was in university 10  years ago and 
i was animating linux install parties with april association ... 
that was always a pain to install linux on laptop
Kaj
23-Sep-2008
[1759]
Various Linux distros have a hard time supporting the EeePC, too
shadwolf
23-Sep-2008
[1760x2]
hum my bro have a eee pc 1000 H and the only problem he face is with 
wifi and he is absolutly not a computer specialist. This can be solved 
by ndiswraper or madwifi patching it
now as he is not a specialist  he can't tell me if  it's ubuntu suport 
the sound properly or the intenal webcam