World: r3wp

to make sure the mouse, and clock work and the video too I think 
.. though that's not so necessary in a non-gui environment

that's the problem I had initially with the first vm I used ... no 
vmware tools installed and so the clock was never right.

There's no mouse :-)

true :)

At least, not in the normal environment. DirectFB and SDL are included, 
but it's basically a console system

I suppose you have the VMware tools? Can you install them on a console 
VM?

yes .. it's all console installation ( compile .. but of course it's 
a perl script! )

Ugh. No Perl on a standard Syllable Server, so you'd have to install 
that, too

Does it compile stuff?

I presume so

I can see how it works without vmware tools ...

If so, you'd have to install the developer packs, too, and the size 
of the thing increases

I'm out of time for working on Syllable, but I'll squeeze some things 
in here and there

I still have to make an emulator image for Server 0.3, so I'll see 
if I can port Dovecot before that

Are you using that VM for anything else but RebelBB?

no...

OK. It may actually be easier for me to produce a highly optimised 
RebelBB appliance :-)

What's the difference?

Size

If I just add RebelBB and Dovecot to the stripped version I was going 
to work on anyway

ok

I hear that Syllable Desktop can run for a week on VMware without 
loosing time, so I don't know what the problem with Fedora is

http://www.djax.co.uk/kb/linux/vmware_clock_drift.html

Another fine mess

We'll have to see how serious the problem is, and if we can correct 
it by using NTP on the Syllable guest

my experience is that minutes are lost over one hour

Nasty

We could run an R/S tunnel that sets the guest clock every minute 
from the host clock :-)

I was doing that

Oh, cool. Didn't it work?

Yes, but it was just too many dependencies

But you still have the code?

Were you running a desktop on the guest machine?

no

Hm. A Syllable colleague says loosing time is basically through a 
heavily loaded machine

It should be much less of an issue on an optimised appliance

hardly heavily loaded .. just rebol and dovecot

Odd. We'll see how it turns out

It's a software clock once running, so these things are usually due 
to badly behaved programs disabling interrupts for short whiles

So the less you have on your system, the less that can disturb it

How much is running on the host system?

A few vms

That could also be it

Do you have time problems on all VMs?

no

Just the linux ones which don't have vmware tools installed

Looks like I'm only currerntly just running Windows 2003 server

Only W2003 in another VM?

yes

A lot on it?