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[Syllable] The free desktop and server operating system family

Graham
6-Oct-2007
[1195]
because the imap server thinks the time is wrong and keeps shutting 
down :(
Kaj
6-Oct-2007
[1196]
Yet another REBOL bulletin board? :-)
Graham
6-Oct-2007
[1197]
Yep .. French one
Kaj
6-Oct-2007
[1198]
Of course I'm planning my own :-)
Graham
6-Oct-2007
[1199]
uses an IMAP server to store the messages
Kaj
6-Oct-2007
[1200]
Integrating with legacy stuff always brings headaches
Graham
6-Oct-2007
[1201]
perhaps I should just use UTC and forget about it
Kaj
6-Oct-2007
[1202]
I can already see why I wouldn't want to use that one
Graham
6-Oct-2007
[1203x2]
I think it's just a very finicky imap server .. dovecut .. that I 
picked
dovecot
Kaj
6-Oct-2007
[1205]
Years ago I chose Cyrus. Not sure if that's still the best
Graham
6-Oct-2007
[1206]
How about a vmware image ??
Kaj
6-Oct-2007
[1207]
My project leader is working on it, but we're going to release images 
a few days later
Graham
6-Oct-2007
[1208x3]
Cool ..
I can wait for that.
Include Rebol and Cheyenne :)
Kaj
6-Oct-2007
[1211]
Core is included. I've never tried Cheyenne yet. Is it hard to set 
up?
Graham
6-Oct-2007
[1212x2]
no, runs out of the box
I presume that you don't have Apache?
Kaj
6-Oct-2007
[1214x2]
Yes, an Apache package is linked from the README
How big is Cheyenne? Does it require Apache?
Graham
6-Oct-2007
[1216x3]
few hundred kbs
and no, doesn't need Apache
Might inspire doc to finish the web console if you release it as 
the default web server :)
Kaj
6-Oct-2007
[1219]
OK. It's not really something that qualifies for our criteria to 
ship in the base system. We wouldn't include Apache, but most of 
the REBOL stuff is so tiny that we might as well throw it in :-)
Graham
6-Oct-2007
[1220]
I use Cheyenne for my web portal .. works fine.
Kaj
6-Oct-2007
[1221x2]
I'll put it on my list to look into. I think it would qualify as 
an operating system grade extension
Normally we ship those in middleware collections of packages, but 
that's a size consideration
Graham
6-Oct-2007
[1223]
Uniserve and Cheyenne are 500kb zipped
Kaj
6-Oct-2007
[1224]
Not tiny, but smaller than many fonts :-)
Kaj
7-Oct-2007
[1225x2]
It has reached OSNews:
http://osnews.com/story.php/18733/First-Syllable-Server-Development-Release
Kaj
17-Oct-2007
[1227x2]
We created a bunch of virtual machine images, so you can try Syllable 
Server easily in an emulator without installing it:
http://osnews.com/story.php/18774/Syllable-Server-Emulator-Images
Gregg
18-Oct-2007
[1229]
Cool.
Kaj
19-Oct-2007
[1230]
Thanks. Did you try it?
Alan
19-Oct-2007
[1231]
I did and VMPlayer would not start it ?
Gregg
19-Oct-2007
[1232]
Not yet, I'm buried.
Kaj
20-Oct-2007
[1233x2]
Alan, what exactly happened? Did you try the VMware option from the 
start menu?
We made the image with VMware Workstation and are running it in VMPlayer
Graham
20-Oct-2007
[1235x2]
only one peer in the swarm .. might as well do an http download from 
your S3 storage!
That was a short experiment.   I tried to open up the file in Ubuntu, 
and it said it was an unrecognized file type ( .7z ).
Kaj
20-Oct-2007
[1237x2]
Yeah, but if we get published somewhere, the swarm will nicely reduce 
our costs, such as on our initial release
The README has full instructions on unpacking and everything else. 
You do have to read it, of course
Graham
20-Oct-2007
[1239x2]
Wouldn't it be simpler to just provide the file in a format that 
most systems understand without having download another piece of 
software just for this purpose .. which then ruins the advantage 
of using an obscure compression system because you save a few bytes?
me .. just a user
Kaj
21-Oct-2007
[1241x4]
Well, you questioned our downloading infrastructure. 7-Zip compression 
is a part of that. Without it, our system packages are about 50% 
bigger. When we get hit by a large publication, that will make a 
serious difference in our costs
And it's not obscure. It's based on LZMA compression, and 7-Zip is 
an incredibly popular implementation:
http://sourceforge.net/top/topalltime.php?type=downloads
Especially on Windows, which, as REBOLers know all too well, is 95% 
of the market