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Henrik
17-Jan-2010
[3504]
I'm trying to answer on the forum...
Sunanda
17-Jan-2010
[3505]
Thanks -- I am sure we can debug this thing, given enough community 
brains!
Henrik
17-Jan-2010
[3506x2]
I think the problem is just that he's trying to post while all groups 
are downloading.
Posted a response.
NickA
17-Jan-2010
[3508]
Sunanda, your work on the web archive for AltME and the mailing list 
is fantastic.  A web based front end for _posting_ and reading messages 
to/from both would do wonders for REBOL community involvement and 
growth.  The Darknet really does keep us from having a larger community. 
 It's a shame :(   I created a little hack script a while back that 
would allow web based posting to the mail list, but no one seemed 
interested...  Having a web based forum which aggregates access to 
these two communication channels would do so much to help with promotion 
and community growth.  I'm 110% sure of that!  ...and rebol.org would 
be a great place for it :)
Sunanda
17-Jan-2010
[3509]
Thanks Nick!


If AltME had an API that allowed us to write messages into a world, 
then perhaps we could use that to have a write-also interface to 
the AltME archive at REBOL.org, in addition to the read-only interface 
we see now. 

Ditto, a mailing list API.

But we'd need the APIs first :)


And I can immediately see various issues related to preventing spam 
and bots from rampaging through those APIs ... But not insurrmountable. 


Clearly, this is not an issue for [I'm New] -- perhaps switch to 
[Script Libary] for any further comments,
Henrik
18-Jan-2010
[3510x2]
YueM's problem is weird, but I think he's misinterpreting that AltME 
is simply downloading messages the first time.
About 53 MB chat files in the REBOL 3 world alone... a lot.
WuJian
18-Jan-2010
[3512]
He is using a slow   web connection,so it will take  much more time 
for downloading.
Henrik
18-Jan-2010
[3513x2]
I wonder if data is downloaded in a compressed format.
(Of note, it probably requires over 100 times less bandwidth to post 
on AltME than on a regular forum)
Sunanda
18-Jan-2010
[3515]
I've send a Feedback to AltME, given them the forum link....Time 
for the big guns ;)
Henrik
18-Jan-2010
[3516]
Actually it gives me some ideas for bulk download of messages, the 
first time you start AltME in a particular world. The method it uses 
is fine for maybe 500-1000 messages at one time, but if you're getting 
250000, there should be a way for AltME to notify that or simply 
get them by the bulk.
Sunanda
18-Jan-2010
[3517]
Sounds good......And have a way of turning red off in all groups. 
Having to click everything when re-installing a world is tedious 
and unREBOLlike.
Henrik
18-Jan-2010
[3518]
Alternatively (but more annoying), group content isn't updated until 
you click the group, but the server could send notification of new 
messages in the group anyway. Not so great for offline use, though.
KeithM
21-Jan-2010
[3519]
I am new to Rebol and have been a lurker for a little while. I used 
R2 to do some work with HTML pages and was sold on its power and 
simple syntax.
Graham
21-Jan-2010
[3520]
Welcome to our world ...
KeithM
21-Jan-2010
[3521x2]
I had to easily change some urls to something else and was able to 
in a few lines of code. I tried this with other scripting languages 
and was never able to get it to work quickly.
Thanks, Graham. When I saw that R2 was being updated I decided to 
take the plunge into Rebol a little more in depth. I have read as 
much as I can on Rebol. I am now trying to learn and use it every 
day for different tasks.
Graham
21-Jan-2010
[3523]
Any plans for use?
KeithM
21-Jan-2010
[3524]
I am curious how stable R3 is for CGI. I am trying to decide to use 
R2 or R3 for CGI. I would rather use R3.
Graham
21-Jan-2010
[3525]
Well, Carl says that rebol.com is using R3 now for cgi
KeithM
21-Jan-2010
[3526x3]
I saw that and may just take the plunge and go with it.
I am a virtual Prof for an online university. I am in charge of several 
areas. I am using Rebol right now to help with our daily course reports 
I get in csv format.
I take the csv files, convert to RebDB, and then run reports in SQL. 
I am working on an R2 GUI version now. I really hope that R3 GUI 
is going to be functional soon. I could not tell if it was since 
no activity for a while on it. I tried the demo in R3 console and 
it does not work.
Graham
21-Jan-2010
[3529x2]
What subject ?
Sorry .. the demo does work.  Which version did you try?
KeithM
21-Jan-2010
[3531x2]
software architecture, network technology, information assurance, 
and health infomatics are my areas I am chair of.
the latest one for Mac OS X Intel.
Graham
21-Jan-2010
[3533x3]
Ahh .. nice .. I could use some help in health informatics !
Hmm.. I think the gui is only working for Windows ....
So, you'll have to run parallels etc
KeithM
21-Jan-2010
[3536x3]
ok, good to know. For now, I will use R2 for some GUI work I need 
to do.
I could do that
I will try it on a Win NetBook my wife has
Henrik
21-Jan-2010
[3539x2]
Yes, the OSX version does not include the graphics engine.
this will change once the host code is released, so those parts can 
be ported
Graham
21-Jan-2010
[3541]
And the r3 gui is about to be changed ... so it's a moving target 
as far as I understand.
KeithM
21-Jan-2010
[3542]
ok
Graham
21-Jan-2010
[3543]
the documentation is also a little lacking ...
KeithM
21-Jan-2010
[3544]
I was happy that that the R2 GUI works pretty well on Mac now.
Henrik
21-Jan-2010
[3545]
there are still some bugs in the core (and more likely to be found), 
but the database at http://curecode.org/rebol3/can offer clues for 
workarounds.
Graham
21-Jan-2010
[3546]
Or, maybe the index to the documentation is lacking ...
Henrik
21-Jan-2010
[3547]
someone messed up the GUI documentation in the wiki.
Graham
21-Jan-2010
[3548]
Henrik .. this is what people keep saying ... but the thing is a 
wiki .. how come no one reverted all the changes?
Henrik
21-Jan-2010
[3549]
because there are two different UI prototypes with each their documentation.
KeithM
21-Jan-2010
[3550]
I am still trying to feel myself around. So far I find the docs to 
be ok.
Graham
21-Jan-2010
[3551x2]
ok, if you need roadside assistance .. each subject has its own channel 
...
A samaritan will likely respond ... if St John's doesn't get there 
first
Henrik
21-Jan-2010
[3553]
Graham, I don't know. I personally don't have the time to delve into 
dealing with reverting those changes. It could take many hours to 
do.