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BrianH
4-Jan-2010
[3446x4]
Make it a page hierarchy for PARSE and you've sold me. You're good 
at wikis, why don't you go for it?
The other words can get a page each.
Get Fork to help - he's good at wikis too. I'll chip in with knowledge 
about R3 as needed (and as available).
And about R2 as well, of course, especially about the new stuff.
Graham
4-Jan-2010
[3450]
the help function I changed requires a separate page for each function 
.... in a specific format.
Gabriele
6-Jan-2010
[3451]
Petr, if someone ruined the wiki, why aren't the pages being rolled 
back?
Pekr
6-Jan-2010
[3452x2]
Gabriele - very extensive changes, like cutton some docs into small 
pieces
cutton = cutting
Gabriele
7-Jan-2010
[3454x2]
right... but you can still roll back to a previous version of each 
page that has been modified...
unless nobody cares, that is.
Fork
9-Jan-2010
[3456x3]
BrianH: Thanks (for above).  I do think that a wiki with only two 
people editing it is not quite going to demonstrate the potential.
Reichart's idea of each function having a page is a good start.  
But I also think there should be pages for cross-cutting topics that 
are linked to liberally when an issue of one of those functions touches 
upon it.
Ladislav's Bindology is an excellent example--I think--of the kind 
of absolutely critical document that wasn't in Rebol's official documentation. 
 (It's unclear why such a study would not be one of the first things 
done in a language project.)  In any case, I think the wiki is a 
good place to be developing such narratives, and this is something 
I've been pushing for.
Reichart
9-Jan-2010
[3459]
Brian... agreed.
Fork
9-Jan-2010
[3460x4]
Reichart: There was a quote Carl made (he was quoting someone else) 
comparing Rebol to the Matrix as being something "you either get 
or you don't".  On a parallel note, I'd cite the first panel in this 
Xkcd: http://xkcd.com/566/
Look, maybe you just suck at explaining.
  :) :)
I've started some crude articles (and BrianH has earned the diligence 
barnstar for correcting them), but they're nothing compared to what 
they could be if more than two people were poking at them.  http://rebol.net/wiki/Scoping_in_Rebol
  http://rebol.net/wiki/Dialect_Design_Considerationshttp://rebol.net/wiki/The_Invariants_of_Rebol
And since we share a leaning toward an interest in design, I'll share 
the Icon/identity ideas I had: http://rebol.net/wiki/REBOL_logo
Brock
9-Jan-2010
[3464]
Hey Fork, what tool did you use to generate the isometric images? 
 Or what technique?
Fork
9-Jan-2010
[3465x5]
Brock: Sketchup
The 3D one was rendered by Milan Antovic: http://github.com/hostilefork/rebmu/blob/master/rebmu.r
Er, http://www.elance.com/experts/serbia_vojvodina_vrsac/3d_modeling_animation/1853084
(Clipboard being wonky in AltME for some reason)
I didn't feel like learning any rendering packages so I subcontracted 
that, but it's not a final rendering carefully done... just communicates 
the possibility...
NickA
9-Jan-2010
[3470x2]
Fork, great articles and ideas :)
I really like the logo, and your scoping article is easily understandable.
Gregg
10-Jan-2010
[3472x3]
Good stuff Fork!

Scoping: 

make-employee: func [name id] [
    employee: make object! compose [
        name: (name) 
        id: (id)
    ]
    return employee
]


'employee isn't declared as local. Is it explicit to make the explanation 
more concrete?
Is camelCase used for a reason, rather than following the standard 
REBOL style?
Fork's icon is very cool.
Fork
10-Jan-2010
[3475x3]
Glad you guys like it...
I tend to use camelCase for local variables to distinguish them from 
functions, but I don't have particularly strong feelings.  If there 
are Rebol coding standards then perhaps a wiki article describing 
them would be a good project for someone who knows them to undertake 
:)
I hope people put pressure on Rebol 3 having a strong visual message, 
and that graphic design is not ignored.  Thus far it does not seem 
to have been given any attention.  My idea is supposed to be a kick-start 
to that process but not the final answer.
PeterWood
11-Jan-2010
[3478]
There used to be an official coding "style" guide on rebol.com but 
I wasn't able to find it. It seems to have got lost during the website 
refurbishment.
Fork
11-Jan-2010
[3479]
There's this: http://www.rebol.com/r3/docs/concepts/scripts-style.html
PeterWood
11-Jan-2010
[3480]
Yes that's it.
Gregg
11-Jan-2010
[3481]
I think it would be great if the feel of the graphics on the site, 
and the logo, could match the feel of the GUI. I know GUis will have 
skins and themes, but a consistent message could go a long way. Is 
REBOL mainly a server scripting tool, or is it a slick-UI tool? And 
if View has a different target than REBOL/Command SDK, their icons 
can be themed as such.
Fork
11-Jan-2010
[3482]
Gregg: Perhaps http://www.haiku-os.org/is an example of the kind 
of thing you are talking about.
Gregg
11-Jan-2010
[3483]
Yes. Conceptual integrity will help all the way through IMO.
YueM
15-Jan-2010
[3484x2]
testing. doesn t seem to accept my message
hello does someone have a working script sample of a dsn less odbc 
connection script. I tried the example in the "database reference" 
page, but it doesn't work.

the dsn example works.  However  I need the dsn less to work for 
the piece of code I am trying to do.
Graham
16-Jan-2010
[3486x3]
Yes. ...
Let me find it ...
see bottom of this page http://www.compkarori.com/vanilla/display/Firebird+Walkthrough
YueM
16-Jan-2010
[3489]
thanks Graham.


this altme thing is very buggy. this is the 10th time I am sending 
almost the same 
message and it is not posting.


does someone have a dsn less odbc connection script for connecting 
to a microsoft access 
database ?
Graham
16-Jan-2010
[3490]
Just look at any example of an access connection string ...
YueM
16-Jan-2010
[3491]
why don't we use a web based forum ?   it would be more reliable 
than this buggy altme ?  I am new to this and I am already having 
a bad impression about the quality of this application.  I have to 
send a message 10 times to get it posted once.
Graham
16-Jan-2010
[3492x2]
Doesn't happen to me .. so something wrong with your setup.
web forum http://synapse-ehr.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?3-Rebol
Maxim
16-Jan-2010
[3494]
not a problem for me either... actually its the first time I hear 
about someone with the problem you describe.
Graham
16-Jan-2010
[3495]
but for some people Altme is very buggy ...