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mhinson 17-May-2009 [2722] | I have to format the code in indented blocks to not lose track of what I am trying to do. Sorry to be so lame. |
BrianH 17-May-2009 [2723] | I do clipboard:// |
mhinson 17-May-2009 [2724] | Ah that sounds like a plan |
BrianH 17-May-2009 [2725] | You don't even need a REBOL header anymore (I changed that). |
mhinson 17-May-2009 [2726x2] | The R3 documentation shows this example for view view layout [ h2 "The time is currently:" h3 form now button "Close" [unview] ] But it does not work. Am I expecting too much from the documentation (sorry) Could someone give me a graphics example that works please to start me off. |
Sorry, I see the R3 docs are a work in progress. I better back out of R3 graphics for now I think or I will get classed as a troll. sorry. | |
Henrik 17-May-2009 [2728] | there are actually two sets of GUI documentation. The right one is located here: http://rebol.net/wiki/R3_GUI |
mhinson 17-May-2009 [2729] | Thanks Henrik, now I have some things that work to play with.. I also want to study Glayout... AND Maxim's SSH-tool project sounds very interesting... Off to bed now, back to parsing tommrow I think. |
mhinson 18-May-2009 [2730] | I have found an example for R3 here (about the only one I could spot so far) http://rebol.net/wiki/Script_Writing_With_The_Visual_Interface_Dialect It looks quite nice with rounded corners to the buttons too. The example crashes when you try to exit so I suppose there is lots to do before this is ready for general use. I know how long developmnet cycles can take so I won't be holding my breath :-) I suspect the R2 functions built in will do more than enough for what I want & that I just need stick with one thing till I can understand it enough to know what it will do & what its limitations are. I showed my parsing project ot a work coleague & he suggested some additional data that it should colect, he was very impressed when I implimented his suggestion & tested it all in under 3 minutes. |
Janko 19-May-2009 [2731] | I am reading about these mezzaines 3 times per day here and I still don't have any clue what they are... I googled but found nothing either.. .so what are mezzaines? |
Graham 19-May-2009 [2732] | mezzanines are functions written in Rebol as opposed to C |
Izkata 19-May-2009 [2733] | In the Rebol console, look at the help for, for example, Foreach and Forall. Under the description of Foreach, it says "FOREACH is a native value" - this means it is implemented directly in C in the interpreter. FORALL says "FORALL is a function value" - it is written using other Rebol commands, and you can see the source of it using "source forall". Mezzanine refers to this second type. |
Graham 19-May-2009 [2734] | mezzanines vs native functions |
Steeve 19-May-2009 [2735x2] | does that mean something in English ?, because in French it does |
hmm... same meaning | |
Janko 19-May-2009 [2737] | then all functions that I make when I program REBOL in REBOL are mezzanines? I thought there is something special about them |
Steeve 19-May-2009 [2738x4] | they just must have an abstract polymorphic usage |
and staying small enough, i think | |
well, the exact definition is, all functions in Rebol which are not natives are mezzanines :) | |
But it''s Carl who makes the choice. | |
Janko 19-May-2009 [2742] | aha :) so it's more analog thing |
Steeve 19-May-2009 [2743] | Final definition: All functions in Rebol that Carl don't want code as natives are called "mezzanines" |
Janko 19-May-2009 [2744] | :)) |
Steeve 19-May-2009 [2745] | Perhaps a new group "Bash Carl" should be more convenient |
Janko 19-May-2009 [2746] | O don't want to be in that group :) |
Maxim 19-May-2009 [2747] | all functions written in rebol, *shipped with rebol* are mezzanines. |
Henrik 20-May-2009 [2748] | Janko: http://hmkdesign.dk/rebol/files/385cc7420409fa08f768a537a52ce4d8-76.html |
Janko 20-May-2009 [2749] | thanks guys, very nice article Henrik! |
Oldes 20-May-2009 [2750] | very ugly link:] |
Henrik 20-May-2009 [2751] | That's RapidWeaver. :-) |
Geomol 20-May-2009 [2752] | Good short article, Henrik. The link to me is outdated. You can use http://john.niclasen.name/, if it's needed. |
BrianH 20-May-2009 [2753x2] | Nice article. The Google ads are funny too :) |
You missed op! functions, but that is probably OK. | |
mhinson 21-May-2009 [2755] | Hi, I am puzzling over this and would really appreciate some pointers please. How do I get from this: d1: "random1" d2: "data2" ;;to this? b1: [random1 ["data2"]] so I can reference the data2 by its association with random1 e.g. b1/random1/1 |
Henrik 21-May-2009 [2756] | well: b1: reduce [to-word d1 reduce [d2]] |
mhinson 21-May-2009 [2757x3] | ah, nice. Thanks. I was looking here http://www.rebol.com/docs/core23/rebolcore-16.html#section-3.10 which for once looks like it was the right area. Thank you. |
I was hoping to get something like this working with the data structure Henric helped me with above. foreach bb b1 [ print b1/:bb/1] but the foreach itterates all the vlaues, not just the words. I have been thinking about this for a week or so, but dont really know how to get any further with it. I suspect that if I had the right structure I could use it to store my data, then add additional details when I find some more, and finaly export the whole lot, grouped together by the key value (that I will only know when the script is running). Im aproaching this in the right sort of way? Or is there a recognised way to create these sort of structures please? | |
Sorry about my typing Henrik. I know how to spell your name really. | |
BrianH 21-May-2009 [2760] | foreach [key val] b1 [print val] |
mhinson 21-May-2009 [2761] | That is just what I wanted, thanks Brian. Is this a recognised way to deal with data that is presented in a different order to the output requirement? |
BrianH 21-May-2009 [2762x2] | No, it's just a way to treat a block as fixed records, this time of two values each. |
If you want variable records you either put the data in an inner block (as you have), or use a distinct datatype for the keys ans search for values of that datatype to find the next key. | |
mhinson 21-May-2009 [2764] | I think I need to learn more before I can use this to the effect I need. I was expecting your construct to all me to do this: foreach [key val] b1 [print b1/:val/1] |
BrianH 21-May-2009 [2765] | I don't get what you want to do. Perhaps some sample data and the desired output? |
mhinson 21-May-2009 [2766] | probe b1 [random3 ["data4"] random1 ["data2"]] probe b1/random1/1 data2 but as I dont know what random1 is I want to enumerate the values from the data structure. |
BrianH 21-May-2009 [2767] | Are you trying to get a specific data* or to enumerate all of random*? |
mhinson 21-May-2009 [2768] | Ah I think I am being a numpty. your structure already returns the data, but I need to be able to print the keys with the associated data. |
BrianH 21-May-2009 [2769x2] | foreach [r d] b1 [print [r d]] |
You can do some formatting in the print statement, but it is that easy. | |
mhinson 21-May-2009 [2771] | I will have different numbers of data elements in different keys, so I also need to keep track of which data is stored where, perhaps I need an array as the data element. |
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