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Henrik 3-May-2010 [9848] | the thing is that it should work identically from the event func and when used from a button |
Thorsten 3-May-2010 [9849] | This is my function: insert-event-func [ if equal? event/type 'resize [ header/size: as-pair main/size/1 60 header1/size: as-pair main/size/1 60 separator/size: as-pair main/size/1 4 navigator/size: as-pair 200 (main/size/2 - 120) navigator1/size: as-pair 200 (main/size/2 - 120) panels/size: as-pair main/size/1 (main/size/2 - 120) panel1/size: as-pair main/size/1 (main/size/2 - 120) li/resize: 400x300 panel2/size: as-pair main/size/1 (main/size/2 - 120) panel3/size: as-pair main/size/1 (main/size/2 - 120) footer/size: as-pair main/size/1 60 footer/offset: as-pair 0 (main/size/2 - 60) footer1/size: as-pair main/size/1 60 show main ] event ] |
Henrik 3-May-2010 [9850x2] | li/resize: 400x300 should be: li/resize 400x300 |
that's why it only works once. :-) | |
Thorsten 3-May-2010 [9852] | Yes, now it works in all ways. So obvious! OK, thanks a lot. |
Henrik 3-May-2010 [9853] | If you don't want to handle resizing manually, you could look at the VID Extension Kit. |
eFishAnt 3-May-2010 [9854x2] | There might be a better group than View, but I am looking for industry literature about UI delays. I remember something about an IBM paper that said 1/10 of a second is the maximum keyboard or UI delay that is imperceptible. I wonder if there is a good whitepaper/publication on this that someone can recommend that would be solid enough to wack a supplier over the head with who has very slow UI latencies. They are in denial about latency affecting the user experience. |
ironic enough, the current 1.2.22 AltME which has noticeable behavior changes while sending messages, will cause duplicated messages if you try a second time to CTRL-S while waiting for it to go out...so I am seeing more duplicated messages...just did one in here... :-\ | |
Sunanda 3-May-2010 [9856] | a good place to start is Jakob Nielsen's research: http://www.useit.com/papers/responsetime.html |
eFishAnt 3-May-2010 [9857] | PERFECT! you shine, Sunanda! |
Maxim 3-May-2010 [9858x3] | one easy suggestion for improving "responsiveness" is to ALWAYS put UI code at the top of any processing. it takes us quite a long time to react to a change in the ui, so that delay can be used to do the processing. |
that was one reason the Amiga felt so fast... the gui wasn't managed by the application's task, but by the os... independently of the application's business. For example, even if the application was processing, the menu would pop up in real time... cause intuition (the gui manager) was at a higher priority than most applications. | |
@ Gregg, MIN and MAX on pairs right now is extremely usefull to intersect and or add up regions. | |
Paul 4-May-2010 [9861x2] | How you guys use request-file to open only for selection of folders (exluding files in the listing)? |
I have a method that I use that I don't know of being documented anywhere so I'm wondering what others are doing. | |
james_nak 4-May-2010 [9863] | Just found an interesting behavior. I had a layout that mimics the request-password. It is launched via view/new and do-events If I did an unview after the user entered in the password ( apass: field hide [unview] , it would close it but later on other requestors or view elements would disappear. The app was still running though. If I closed the request via a button click it works fine. I just wanted it to respond to a CR instead of having the user have to reach for the mouse. At this point though, let em reach for the mouse. :-) |
Graham 4-May-2010 [9864x2] | is it modal? |
guess not as you are using view/new ... are you using unview/only ? | |
james_nak 4-May-2010 [9866x3] | Yes, I think I tried that. Of course I think I tried a million ways. :-) |
Let me check. | |
You know what they say? I could have sworn I used it... Thanks Graham. | |
Gregg 5-May-2010 [9869] | Paul, post your method. There wasn't any common dialog for folder selection in Windows for a long time, and REBOL still doesn't provide direct access to it. |
BrianH 5-May-2010 [9870] | for a long time ? I remember using the folder selection dialog in Win3.1 apps... |
Maxim 5-May-2010 [9871x2] | windows folder selection dialogs really suck for many reasons... one of the most annoying is that you cannot create a folder while you are hunting for one. |
so if Paul has found a trick that allows us to use the normal file requestor so it can pick folders... YAY | |
Gregg 5-May-2010 [9873x2] | It wasn't a common dialog though, and required callbacks (at least the Shell API I knew of). I don't remember it in 16-bit Windows, but the duff on the floor of my brain is thick. |
Max, not sure what dialogs you're talking about, but the common dialogs allow that. | |
BrianH 5-May-2010 [9875x2] | Maxim, I think that the "New folder" button is an option for the folder selection dialog; at least I see it often in programs pre-Vista. Vista+ the folder selection dialog is a subset of the Open/Save dialog, with most of its abilities. |
Gregg, it's possible that the Win3.1 programs that I remember were using a custom dialog that served as the inspiration of the later common dialog, but they worked the same. The common dialogs themselves were a later addition, iirc; not sure whether Windows before 3.0 had them. | |
Maxim 5-May-2010 [9877] | was there windows before 3.11? ;-) |
BrianH 5-May-2010 [9878] | Yup. Windows had a 1.0.3 release, just like REBOL but with less memory usage :) |
Maxim 5-May-2010 [9879] | I was joking, there where many releases before 3.11 ... ;-) |
BrianH 5-May-2010 [9880] | I know, just going with it :) Though practically, I considered REBOL 1.0.3 to be more useful than Windows 1.0.3 :) |
Maxim 5-May-2010 [9881x2] | hehe, but its funny that windows 1.0.3 actually didn't have windows, it was a row/column/grid gui engine. |
the OS itself I mean. | |
Steeve 5-May-2010 [9883] | and it was running with what... less than 1 Mb ? |
BrianH 5-May-2010 [9884x2] | Less that 512k - room to spare to run apps even if you only had 640k. |
Partly due to the wonders of small screen resolutions and bitdepths (which made tiled windows a bad idea). Nowadays I have screen images that take more memory than Win 1.0.3 altogether :) | |
Steeve 5-May-2010 [9886] | I remember that with 3.11 the memory allocated for graphic controls of an active window was limited to 64Kb |
Maxim 5-May-2010 [9887] | yes people forget that just storing a SINGLE bitmap which is 1280x1024 in RGBA colors, takes up 5.25 MB of ram. it adds up very quickly. |
BrianH 5-May-2010 [9888] | To be fair Steeve, just about everything in Win3.1 was limited to 64k - stupid segmented memory. I jumped at Win32s when it came out :) |
amacleod 13-May-2010 [9889] | trying to use set-face in a loop to assign values to multiple text fields...what is wrong here? fields: [a b c] foreach field fields [ set-face field now ] |
Maxim 13-May-2010 [9890] | although I never used set-face... I'd say you have to do: set-face field to-string now |
amacleod 13-May-2010 [9891x2] | I tried it with a string ...I was not thinking when I wrote the example |
getting this error: ** Script Error: in expected object argument of type: object port ** Where: set-face ** Near: if all [ access: get in face 'access in access 'set-face* ] [ access/set-face* face value ] if | |
Maxim 13-May-2010 [9893x3] | add a show to it... might just not be refresing itself. |
ah. | |
probably just need to 'REDUCE your fields block first. its not receiving an object as its first parameter fields: reduce [a b c] foreach field fields [ set-face field now ] btw... use the 'source command whenever you get these types of errors. >> source set-face set-face: func [ {Sets the primary value of a face. Returns face object (for show).} face value /no-show "Do not show change yet" /local access ][ if all [ access: get in face 'access in access 'set-face* ] [ access/set-face* face value ] if not no-show [show face] face ] | |
amacleod 13-May-2010 [9896x2] | I never use set-face either but I'm tired of setting a bunch of fields manually |
The fields need to stay as word! If I reduce them they will give me their current value... | |
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