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Henrik 23-Feb-2009 [8504x3] | you need to get a resize event from the window and apply that to the image. you can use INSERT-EVENT-FUNC for that. |
sorry, I misread... | |
lay/size needs to be set as well. Do that near pic/size. | |
amacleod 23-Feb-2009 [8507] | Got it...thanks henrik... |
Anton 23-Feb-2009 [8508] | img: load %your-image.png view window: layout [pic: image img button "change size" [pic/size: 300x200 window/size: pic/offset * 2 + pic/size show window]] |
amacleod 3-Mar-2009 [8509x2] | Can rebol save in jpg format? |
Never mind, I found a link Anton posted for image Magick image saver... | |
Oldes 3-Mar-2009 [8511x2] | If you mean this link: http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rebol/save-image.html than you should know that I fixed a memory leak now. (and added a /quality refinement) |
I have much more routines from IM, but I must to clean the sources a bit. | |
Pekr 3-Mar-2009 [8513] | not entirely free, but powerfull - http://xnview.com/en/features_nc.html It enabled to Carl to batch process Italy devcon images in few minutes - no wrapper needed, just a command line ... |
Oldes 3-Mar-2009 [8514] | You don't need wrapper, but you cannot do: save-image %test.jpg to-image layout [button "hello world"] Also IM can be used as a command line tool, which I was doing quite a long time. But finally I'm working on wrapper as it's faster than doing many calls to external app. Of course.. if you want to resize 100 photos per year, you don't care if it's call or by using wrapper. |
Pekr 3-Mar-2009 [8515] | you can save temporarily as tmp, do whatever you want to image afterwards. I would not estimate overhead of calling an external app. Especially on unix systems, many tools are just command line tools anyway,no? :-) |
amacleod 3-Mar-2009 [8516] | Thanks for the info guys. Oldes, its for a personal tool so I can dfeal with the memory leak but the quality refinement sounds useful. I'll check out XNVIEW too.. |
amacleod 5-Mar-2009 [8517] | Can you have an inform window without hte title bar (and border)? |
Brock 5-Mar-2009 [8518] | Try rolling your own maybe... source inform.... would give you the important bits I would guess. |
amacleod 5-Mar-2009 [8519] | Just checking incase something was not documented.. |
amacleod 10-Mar-2009 [8520] | For some reason I can't get %CORE_RL_wand_.dll to load using Oldes' save-image script. I have it in the same directory as the script and I tried it in the systemn folders... error: ** Access Error: Cannot open CORE_RL_wand_.dll as library ** Where: context ** Near: lib_ImageMagickWand: load/library either system/version/4 = |
Graham 10-Mar-2009 [8521] | what happens if you try it from the console? |
amacleod 11-Mar-2009 [8522x2] | I treied "doing the script from console..same error. |
It might be a version problem... Using ImageMagick-6.4.9-Q16 I get a different error with version: ImageMagick-6.3.2-Q16 errror: The procedure entry point MagickOpenStream could not be located in dynamic link library CORT_RL_.dll | |
Ammon 11-Mar-2009 [8524] | I think you may need to right-click the DLL from Windoze Explorer and register it. |
amacleod 11-Mar-2009 [8525x2] | I also get different erros if I launch script from within magick folder: ** Access Error: Cannot open MagickImportImagePixels ** Where: context ** Near: set routine make routine! specs with older version |
register it? Never did that before. I do not see anything in hte right click menu about registering | |
Ammon 11-Mar-2009 [8527] | I'm probably wrong then. It's been a few years since I played with it... |
amacleod 11-Mar-2009 [8528x2] | From inside folder of the newer version I get a Visual C++ Runtime errror... program ..rebol.exe R6034 An application has made an attempt to load the C runtime library incorrectly. Please contact the application's support team for more info.. |
I comneted out all references to "MagickImportImagePixels" and it starts without error... but anytime I try to save it says I do not have the Encoder for that file format...: ** User Error: 0 = NoEncodeDelegateForThisImageFormat `C:\Documents and Settings\Alan\Desktop\ImageMagick-6.3.2-Q16\test.jpg' ** Near: make error! errmsg | |
Gregg 11-Mar-2009 [8530] | Alan, do you have DEP turned on? I did, and I saw the same problem. |
Oldes 11-Mar-2009 [8531x3] | you need the other libs as well I think. |
for jpeg support it will be the CORE_RL_jpeg_.dll | |
and I'm using ImageMagick 6.4.9-6 2009-02-18 Q16 - the older may be different so that's why for example the MagickImportImagePixels is missing. | |
Graham 16-Mar-2009 [8534] | if you're got an empty table or whatever, and you're wating for data to load ... do you think is better .. to hide the widget, and have a "loading...." or other busy indicator ajax like ... or flash up a flash ? |
Anton 16-Mar-2009 [8535] | Don't hide the widget. A busy indicator on top would be good, or at least have a single row in the table which says "loading data...". |
Graham 16-Mar-2009 [8536x2] | I had the "loading data" in a single row ... decided to move away from that. |
In terms of visuals, it is much more apparent that you have a result when the whole table appears as opposed to a table that fills ? right? | |
Anton 17-Mar-2009 [8538x3] | I think it's better to let the user see the container where the result will appear, so they can resize it appropriately etc. while they are waiting for the data. This also prepares them for the type of data that will appear, as the shape and colours of the table can remind them. Also, partially loaded data may be all that they need, and that may allow them to move on to the next step of what they are doing. |
The busy indicator should make it apparent then that the data is yet incomplete. | |
Think about the kind of experience you would have with web browsing if the browser only showed you a page after it had completely loaded. In small part, this is what you seem to want to build into your app. Those decisions could accumulate into a very irritating web experience. | |
Graham 17-Mar-2009 [8541x3] | VID and RebGUI widgets don't have a 'loading now ..." state. Perhaps they should |
In my app, the data loads instantly once it has arrived. | |
no, to the whole page. the window has all the buttons showing ... just not the data container itself ... | |
Anton 17-Mar-2009 [8544x2] | Well, I would want to see three things: 1) A "loading data..." message. 2) A progress bar. 3) A busy indicator. All three could be combined into a single widget, or kept separate. |
You could ghost the table widget until the data has arrived and is ready. Put a box over the top of it with effect [merge luma -20] or something like that. | |
Graham 17-Mar-2009 [8546] | The other thing is .. if you have no data returned from your database query ... you then present a useless empty widget. Or, you present an alert that there was no data .. which means you then have to close it down .. or you just update your "loading ..." message. |
Anton 17-Mar-2009 [8547x2] | At least the user knows there was data expected there, and what type of data it was. ("Knows" visually.) |
It's not useless. If your query returned no data, that's no reason to pop up alert windows and bug the user. Just indicate inside the table widget that there was no data for the particular query. | |
Graham 17-Mar-2009 [8549x4] | I'm being influenced by how web apps work. |
Eg if you do a search on your gmail ... it doesn't return an empty table, but a message saying there were no results. | |
Same if I have an ajax type of search ... I don't show an empty table until it fills .. I show a spinning image and then show the table when it is filled. | |
Fewer widgets on screen means easier comprehension for the user. | |
Anton 17-Mar-2009 [8553] | And while we're talking about querying and result displays, I often am confused as to whether a query I submitted actually returned, when it returned empty data. This causes me to query several times just to see if the server actually got my query and returned. The answer to this (in my opinion) is to return the query and time of query in the results as well, in the table title. So you can see *something* change on every query result. |
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