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Sunanda 22-Jul-2010 [980] | True.....But the page you get to does have a "download script" link. That is usable by REBOL. |
Graham 22-Jul-2010 [981] | I'd rather just you fix the direct link so that it's usable by Rebol ... or, put the download on the page so I can double click and control C |
Anton 22-Jul-2010 [982] | I'm fairly sure it's not my email client (which is Thunderbird). I thought it was some problem with ecartis which we never got around to fixing. |
Graham 22-Jul-2010 [983] | Or, you have some javascript that copies the download link to my clipboard |
Sunanda 22-Jul-2010 [984x2] | We did try to make the direct link usable by REBOl......But that is not easy as we have to escape chats like & and < |
chats ==> chars ! | |
Graham 22-Jul-2010 [986x2] | well, just detect what client it is and send the right thing |
if the client is rebol .. we want the script ! | |
Anton 22-Jul-2010 [988] | Link as above not usable by rebol; because PATH-THRU has simplistic algorithm for mapping url -> filepath, isn't it? |
Sunanda 22-Jul-2010 [989] | Nice idea, Graham..... But the REBOL script might be a spider/inder like RIX; and so expects a HTML page. We can't second guess cases like that. |
Anton 22-Jul-2010 [990] | But yeah, I think it should be a bit less work to change rebol.org's urls than improve rebol's path-thru. |
Graham 22-Jul-2010 [991] | yes you can ... because a spider will identify itself |
Anton 22-Jul-2010 [992x3] | Bugger the javascript idea ! (Gawd!) |
That's just piling on complexity. | |
(and I don't run with javascript most of the time). | |
Graham 22-Jul-2010 [995] | anyway I don't think it matters what spiders pull down |
Sunanda 22-Jul-2010 [996] | No need for second guessing -- REBOL.org already has the "feed me a plain text" link -- use the Download script link for that. That's simplicity......Isn't it!? |
Graham 22-Jul-2010 [997x2] | just a few characters difference |
No, because you cause every single person who recieves a rebol org link extra work | |
Anton 22-Jul-2010 [999] | A caveat for changing rebol.org's urls; there is a history of rebol.org's urls in mail postings etc. Changing them would invalidate those historical links (unless you also maintain support for those old links). |
Graham 22-Jul-2010 [1000x3] | Anton, one doesn't change the link you just change the behaviour |
If it's a browser .. give them a browser approprate view | |
Everyone else ... send them the script in an executable format | |
Anton 22-Jul-2010 [1003x2] | I feel similarly to Graham on that one. (ie. it's simple ok, but annoying). |
Sorry, if I'm not clear, my head is quite foggy. | |
Sunanda 22-Jul-2010 [1005] | If any agent uses the HTML link, we send them the HTML page. If any agent uses the plain-text link, we send them the plain text. Anything else is likely to lead to complications for some users whose expectations we'd be disregarding. |
Anton 22-Jul-2010 [1006] | It is a tough problem... |
Sunanda 22-Jul-2010 [1007] | Yes, a simple request, but a tough problem to get right in all practical cases. |
Anton 22-Jul-2010 [1008x2] | Sunanda, how did you change the simetrics matching? (I noticed there were several algorithms in the simetrics.r file, so I suppose you selected a better one.) |
And I just retested the 3dmoney.r page, now money.r is first in the suggestions list. Nice one. | |
Sunanda 22-Jul-2010 [1010] | Thanks for retesting. We use a couple of the algos, and then weight the results. In addition, we do some other stuff -- like give additional weight if the first char matches; or if the lengths are similar. And we gave some extra weight if the search string was fully contained within the script name (eg some bonus when matching "Apple.r" against "an-apple-script.r" (ignoring the .r of course). What was missing was some extra weight if the script name was fully contained in the seach string (Money.r is fully wthin 3dmoney.r)....Adding that test raised its relevance. |
Graham 22-Jul-2010 [1011] | Yep, the users are always wrong! |
Anton 22-Jul-2010 [1012] | Mind your hyperbole, Graham! |
Sunanda 22-Jul-2010 [1013] | Sometimes users ask for things that are not practical for other users, and thus us poor developers have to make choices that can leave some unhappy :) Suppose I wanted this code to execute the first code block.... do http://synapse-ehr.com/forums/showthread.php?120-RebGUI-table ....That's a reasonable request for me. But is it for all users, such as Rixbot? |
Graham 22-Jul-2010 [1014x3] | You're missing the point ... if you want to make it easy for users to test scripts ..you need to make sure that the links the users pass around are usable by rebol |
So either educate the users or change your server script | |
Or, as Mohammed was wont to do ... | |
Anton 22-Jul-2010 [1017x2] | Would a rebol function named "get-rebol.org-script" in your user.r (or built-in to rebol) help alleviate the problem at all? |
It would just convert a "view-script.r" link into a "download-a-script.r" link, so that users take, for example, the money.r link and type this into their console: do get-rebol.org-script http://www.rebol.org/view-script.r?script=money.r | |
Graham 22-Jul-2010 [1019] | I fire up rebol consoles everywhere .. so I would need to have that function everywhere. Much simple to fix the source. |
Sunanda 22-Jul-2010 [1020] | Simpler for _you_ if we change the source; but perhaps not simpler for _others_ who expect it as it is. Another even easier solution (easier for me, anyway:) ....In theory, REBOL does hunt through verbiage looking for "REBOL [" and starts executing from there. So If the R2/R3 interpretor also de-escaped strings like < then the view-script would be executable. Why not curecode/RAMBO that as a request!? |
NickA 22-Jul-2010 [1021] | My 2 cents: I like the way the links work now, but I also echoed Graham's request when I initially started using rebol.org. Is it possible to hide a copy of the actual (downloadable script) code, at the top of the web page, so that it's executable by REBOL, but not visible by those using a browser? |
Sunanda 22-Jul-2010 [1022] | Nice idea. But there is no foolproof way that does not leave someone with a screenreader seeing (or not seeing) double. Also, may mess things up for (the few I hope) people with early CSS implementations in their browsers. I'm still looking for an argument to convince me that one URL should serve two separate resources depending on user-agent sniffing. |
Graham 22-Jul-2010 [1023] | You want an argument?? Let's step outside and discuss this! |
Sunanda 22-Jul-2010 [1024] | :/) |
Andreas 20-Oct-2010 [1025x2] | I'm seeing very strange line endings in scripts downloaded from the script library. |
I am downloading http://www.rebol.org/download-a-script.r?script-name=test-framework.r | |
Ladislav 20-Oct-2010 [1027] | Did you see such line endings in other library scripts, or do you think it is just me doing something strange? |
Andreas 20-Oct-2010 [1028x2] | I get it for all scripts, AFAICT. |
Just downloaded 2 different scripts at random, same weirdness. | |
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