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[unknown: 5] 17-Feb-2008 [9109] | I actually did that and it got no errors which really has me a bit stumped. |
Geomol 17-Feb-2008 [9110x2] | That's weird. Could you test, if the just inserted value in the block is not integer!? Like: if integer! <> type? first blk [print "something"] |
And do that for every insert. | |
[unknown: 5] 17-Feb-2008 [9112x3] | Well that is actually how I did my test. I had the following in the subject area of the problem: if not integer? record-number: first to-block raw-record [print record-number] Problem is that it never printed anything |
Maybe someone can tell me what the end! datatype is used for and that might help find the problem | |
Gonna go see if the core manual refers to the end! datatype. | |
Geomol 17-Feb-2008 [9115] | end! is the datatype used to specify ends of blocks, if I remember correctly. |
[unknown: 5] 17-Feb-2008 [9116] | I didn't even know there was one. In what way would it be used? |
Geomol 17-Feb-2008 [9117x3] | Yes, "internal marker for end of block" |
It's an internal datatype. | |
My guess is, that somehow your input is an empty block (or the end marker) in some situations. | |
[unknown: 5] 17-Feb-2008 [9120x3] | Hmm... ok then that might explain something. I recall a copy function I had that caused the interal code of REBOL to spill out so I assume it has something to do with my port handling as that copy function I had did similiar. |
So it might be in the area where I have a copy/part on file data which would result in a block. | |
Geomol where did you get that information as it being an internal marker for end of block? | |
Geomol 17-Feb-2008 [9123x2] | R3 datatypes: http://www.rebol.net/wiki/Datatypes |
Many are the same in R2. | |
[unknown: 5] 17-Feb-2008 [9125] | ok thanks. |
Geomol 17-Feb-2008 [9126] | I think, end! was hidden in R2 and will be exposed in R3. |
[unknown: 5] 17-Feb-2008 [9127x4] | I suppose so. Maybe Gabriele will be lurking and can provide more info. |
I suppose the end! datatype isn't really interal code as I understood internal code in REBOL. | |
It appears possibly to do with the sort function | |
You can see the problem here - as it only seems to appear when the sort function is introduced: >> head dbrecs == make list! [1 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 ... >> length? head dbrecs == 10098 >> dbrecs == make list! [] >> find head dbrecs end! == none >> sort head dbrecs == make list! [1 4 5 end unset 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 2 7 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40... >> find head dbrecs end! == make list! [end unset 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 2 9 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42... | |
Geomol 17-Feb-2008 [9131] | What do you see, if you do a >> ? system/version |
[unknown: 5] 17-Feb-2008 [9132] | >> system/version == 2.7.5.3.1 |
Geomol 17-Feb-2008 [9133] | Have you checked the bug database, if it's a known issue? http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/rambo.r |
[unknown: 5] 17-Feb-2008 [9134] | If it is the sort function then that would explain why putting the checks in my script didn't catch it because I was only using the sort in the console to test some other ideas. |
Geomol 17-Feb-2008 [9135] | (Just click the link, I gave, to run the bug database in your browser.) |
[unknown: 5] 17-Feb-2008 [9136] | I just searched it and didn't find mention of this problem. |
Geomol 17-Feb-2008 [9137] | This is related, I think: http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/rambo.r?id=3761& |
[unknown: 5] 17-Feb-2008 [9138x8] | Possibly. |
But that one says its built already so there is still a problem that exists with the function. | |
I'm going to run another test real quick to see if it effects just the list datatype by converting to block before the sort | |
Ahhh - the problem goes away if I convert my list to a block datatype before the sort. | |
So sort is causing the problem when performed on a list datatype | |
Do you know of any mezzanine functions that utilize sort? | |
Is there a version 2.76? | |
2.7.6 rather | |
Geomol 17-Feb-2008 [9146x2] | Different versions: http://www.rebol.net/builds/031/ |
Sort scripts: http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/search.r?find=sort&form=yes | |
[unknown: 5] 17-Feb-2008 [9148] | Yeah I don't see any hint of a version 2.7.6 in that list but I seen in the Rambo database a reference to one problem being fixed in version 2.7.6. |
Henrik 17-Feb-2008 [9149] | There is an internal alpha of 2.7.6 that has not been released and I don't think RAMBO yet shows all the bugfixes for 2.7.6. Carl doesn't want to spend too much time on it, so Maarten is appointed release manager for it, as he was with R3 alpha 1. |
[unknown: 5] 17-Feb-2008 [9150] | so does this mean that 2.7.6 may never get released and instead just R3? |
Henrik 17-Feb-2008 [9151] | I hope not :-) I need some of those fixes for R2. |
[unknown: 5] 17-Feb-2008 [9152] | I don't mind the problems as long as they are being fixed for R3. |
Henrik 17-Feb-2008 [9153] | I have production systems that will not be migrated to R3, so I hope they will be fixed. |
[unknown: 5] 17-Feb-2008 [9154] | I don't know the sales stradegy for R3 which is why I'm not currently designing TRETBASE around it. If I knew more I might make the leap now but didn't know how long alphas would be operable etc, costs of the end product of R3, etc... |
Henrik 17-Feb-2008 [9155] | it's a dangerous period for relying on R3 stability, because of modules, tasks and unicode not being in place yet. some very basic things may still change so much that the initial R3 test scripts might not work anymore. |
[unknown: 5] 17-Feb-2008 [9156] | Yeah good point. |
Henrik 17-Feb-2008 [9157] | I wouldn't expect production stability until about a year from now, but that doesn't mean we don't get to play with a lot of juicy alphas in the mean time. :-) |
[unknown: 5] 17-Feb-2008 [9158] | I actually haven't played with them much - it hasn't yet appealed to me. Maybe I just don't understand everything that is changing. |
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