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btiffin
11-Jun-2007
[8286]
Cool.  Thanks Gabriele.  I'll be relying on Ashley's RebGUI code 
for some of the
localization, but this looks like something to dig into.
Ashley
11-Jun-2007
[8287]
A key consideration is whether you want the translation(s) to be 
static (compile-time) or dynamic (run-time). Advantages and disadvantages 
to both approaches.
btiffin
11-Jun-2007
[8288]
Yeah, I toggle back and forth, but they'll be static this time.  
:)
Rebolek
11-Jun-2007
[8289]
some BIND expert, please, help me:

>> act: [add a b]
== [add a b]
>> for a 1 5 1 [for b 1 5 1 [do act]]
** Script Error: a has no value
** Where: do-body
** Near: add a b

There must be something easier than
>> for a 1 5 1 [for b 1 5 1 [do bind bind act 'a 'b]]
Sunanda
11-Jun-2007
[8290]
Is this simpler and the same effect?
    act: func [a b][add a b]
    for a 1 5 1 [for b 1 5 1 [act a b]]
Rebolek
11-Jun-2007
[8291]
hm, not exactly what I want because this is simplified, I have more 
variables than just 'a and 'b, but still useful.
btiffin
11-Jun-2007
[8292]
May or may not work for your needs

for a 1 5 1 [for b 1 5 1 bind act 'a]
Graham
11-Jun-2007
[8293]
Is there an async https protocol in the offing?
Gabriele
11-Jun-2007
[8294]
mine works with both http and https
Graham
11-Jun-2007
[8295x2]
is this the current release?
or you own unreleased version?
Gabriele
11-Jun-2007
[8297]
same version as used on the detective and published on my site
Graham
11-Jun-2007
[8298]
Ok.
Oldes
12-Jun-2007
[8299x3]
what would be the best way how to legalize urls like this one http://maps.google.com/mapfiles//cb/blue_outlines.png
I mean rebol-file from such a url
hm.. parse t: "a//bb/c" [any [to "/" p1: some "/" p2: (p1: change/part 
p1 "/" p2) :p1] to end] t
Anton
13-Jun-2007
[8302x2]
You mean, to "clean" it, into a legal url ?
http://anton.wildit.net.au/rebol/freezer/simple-clean-path.r
Oldes
13-Jun-2007
[8304x2]
yes... that's what I wanted.. especially to make the local file secure 
as well... (so converting url to local file does not leave the send-box:)
I already had own version, but your is a little bit better as correctly 
handles complete url... my was only for the path
Chris
13-Jun-2007
[8306]
This is one reason I wrote my files:// protocol -- http://www.ross-gill.com/r/sandbox.html
(need to add to the library).
Anton
14-Jun-2007
[8307x2]
we also had a secure-clean-path....
Ah.. secure-clean-path should be in rebol.org already.
Henrik
16-Jun-2007
[8309x4]
do func [a b /c] [either c [a + b][a * b]] 2 3

How do I invoke the refinement?
or perhaps:

f. func [a b /c] [either c [a + b][a * b]] 2 3

do :f 2 3 ; <--- here?
Think I figured it out...
nope, didn't work. I need the function in a composed block:


compose [do (:f/c) 2 3] ; causes error, since arguments are not inside 
the compose parantheses.

But the arguments are not used, so:

compose [do (:f/c 2 3)]


But now the arguments are local to the function. The arguments come 
from a different context, so I can't just compose the get-word'ed 
function with the arguments.


So I'll go back to the first question on how to make a refinement 
on an inline function?
Graham
16-Jun-2007
[8313]
why use the refinement in a throwaway function?
Henrik
16-Jun-2007
[8314x3]
the function is rather complex and must be used many times, so I 
wrote it outside the block.
the block is a database query on a remote machine
and the function helps me to find out whether certain conditions 
for a database entry is true or false
Graham
16-Jun-2007
[8317]
Didn't Maarten use refinements in rugby?
Gabriele
16-Jun-2007
[8318x3]
hmm, since you're composing, why not put a path there?
otherwise... do 'f/c 2 3 should work.
>> f: func [a b /c] [either c [a + b][a * b]]
>> do 'f/c 2 3
== 5
>> do 'f 2 3
== 6
Henrik
16-Jun-2007
[8321]
gabriele, what if the function is local, but must be used remotely 
(security is unimportant right now)
Anton
16-Jun-2007
[8322]
That is a good question, Henrik.
Volker
16-Jun-2007
[8323x3]
what is wrong with an extra assignment?
f:  func [a b /c] [either c [a + b][a * b]]]    f/c 1 2
do (f: func [a b /c] [either c [a + b][a * b]] 'f/c) 2 3
or a wrapper, an 'f-without-c and 'f-with-c.
Henrik
16-Jun-2007
[8326]
volker, can't check right now if that works, but does it pack the 
entire function inside the block?
Volker
16-Jun-2007
[8327x4]
inside the parens
and then returns a path with a refinement. 'do gets the path, done.
You can put a 'use around it to avoid the temp
But not really sure what you want to do. somehow sending a function 
i guess.
Gabriele
18-Jun-2007
[8331x2]
well... if it's to be automatically called etc., i'd suggest avoiding 
refinements as much as possible. just use a logic arg.
if you really have to use refinements, you have to compose a path, 
no other way around in r2. (you see, that's why we've been asking 
for a low level apply native for so much time)
Henrik
18-Jun-2007
[8333]
I see, thanks
Terry
18-Jun-2007
[8334]
After dealing with strings for so many years with various languages, 
I would say that TRIM should be default with any reading/writing 
functions, and when you don't want something trimmed then use a function.

a: "  my untrimmed string   "
write no-trim a
Anton
18-Jun-2007
[8335]
That doesn't make any sense to me as I hardly ever use trim.

In the case where TRIM is embedded into some functionality, disabling 
it becomes an exercise of varying difficulty.

eg. VID's TEXT style trims text automatically, unless you specify 
AS-IS. Discovering where this happens takes a little while.