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Graham
6-Mar-2005
[582x2]
There is a difference between the IMAP protocol itself (RFC 2060) 
and the imap:// URL scheme (RFC 2192). At this time REBOL only supports 
the imap:// URL scheme, which has a subset of the full IMAP protocol 
functionality. It handles mailbox lists, message lists, retrieving 
and deleting of messages, and message searches, i.e. it is API-compatible 
to pop://, with added support for multiple mailboxes and searches. 
Move/copy/rename and other administrative IMAP functions are not 
specified in RFC 2192 and not supported by REBOL's imap:// scheme 
at this time.
which is what I posted to the list in Feb 2003
BrianW
6-Mar-2005
[584]
Thanks, folks. I know that IMAP itself is a bit of a muddle (based 
on profanities that I overheard from somebody who was trying to write 
a complete IMAP client for another language), but a subset of functionality 
is more than I knew about.
Graham
6-Mar-2005
[585x3]
trace/net on
mbox: open imap://userid:[password-:-imapaddress-:-com]
there's a bug in imap as released in the current stable and beta 
versions which Scott and I fixed.
http://www.compkarori.com/vanilla/display/IMAP
Pekr
7-Mar-2005
[588x2]
is there reverse to dehex "Documents and settings", simply some 
function to provide it "Documents and settings" and having replaced 
spaces etc.?
ah, to-url, sorry ...
Micha
8-Mar-2005
[590x3]
rebol []
  
     secure [   net allow  file allow  ]
no security check .
I ask about help  ?
Graham
8-Mar-2005
[593x3]
Anyone got a function to reduce a ip-address to a tuple ?
I mean, make something like 192.168.1.254 -> 192.168.1    .. dropping 
the last number
no matter.
BrianW
8-Mar-2005
[596]
Well I know how I'd do it in Perl or Ruby, but I'm not that far with 
my Rebol yet.
Graham
8-Mar-2005
[597]
192.168.1.254/1 -> 192
192.168.1.254/2 -> 1
BrianW
8-Mar-2005
[598]
Hey, that's cool.
Graham
8-Mar-2005
[599]
I'm writing a greylisting implementation for my smtp server .. and 
I needed to drop the last digits of an ip address to form the triplet
sqlab
8-Mar-2005
[600]
What about 
>> to-tuple reduce [first ip second ip third ip]
== 192.168.1
JaimeVargas
8-Mar-2005
[601]
Graham do you want to compare the spammer ip address against a range?
Anton
8-Mar-2005
[602]
Yes, because you could test   (ip * 1.1.1.0) = (ip2 * 1.1.1.0)
JaimeVargas
8-Mar-2005
[603x3]
;If you do why not use comparison under mask? 

>> same-subnet?: func [src dst mask][(src and mask) = (dst and mask)]
>> same-subnet? 10.10.10.0 10.10.10.5 255.255.255.0
== true
>> same-subnet? 10.10.10.0 10.10.9.5 255.255.255.0
== false
This version handles also cidr prefixes.
>> cidr-as-mask: func[prefix /local mask][
[        mask: make string! 34

[        repeat i 32 [insert tail mask either prefix >= i [1][0]] 
[        to-tuple load rejoin ["2#{" mask "}"]
[    ]  
>> 
>> same-subnet?: func [src dst mask [tuple! integer!]][
[        if integer! = type? mask [mask: cidr-as-mask mask]
[        (src and mask) = (dst and mask)
[    ]
>> same-subnet? 10.10.10.0 10.10.10.5 255.255.255.0
== true
>> same-subnet? 10.10.10.0 10.10.10.5 24           
== true
>> same-subnet? 10.10.10.0 10.10.9.5 255.255.255.0
== false
>> same-subnet? 10.10.10.0 10.10.9.5 24           
== false
Graham
8-Mar-2005
[606x3]
I need to construct what is called a "triplet".  The triplet in greylisting 
parlance is a unique set of three facts about an email.
These are IP-address+smtp envelope from+smtp envelope to

The idea is that you construct a database of triplets from smtp clients. 
 If you have never seen such a triplet before, you send a smtp delay 
back to the client.  Most well constructed MTA's honor the delay 
and try again.  You set a block period .. from 10 seconds to 1 hour 
during which you do not accept any mail from that triplet.  Spamming 
engines generally ignore this delay, and just give up.  It's too 
expensive for them to log such delays and retry again.
If you have seen mail from such a triplet before, you then allow 
that mail to go thru without any delays.

In my testing, I found that my ISP sent me three consecutive emails 
to my smtp server using three different ip addresses all within the 
same subnet.  So, this meant that all three emails were subjected 
to a delay.
So, I constructed the triplet without the last set of digits so that 
it will treat all email from the same subnet as orginating from the 
same address.
JaimeVargas
9-Mar-2005
[609]
Shouldn't parse and checksum be able to work directly on files? The 
only current option is to bring the files to memory either in chunks 
or completely, which can be very expensive in memory resources.
Romano
9-Mar-2005
[610]
checksum more than parse, because with parse there are (not easy) 
workarounds, not with checksum
JaimeVargas
9-Mar-2005
[611]
Romano. Why not parse, because of skip not working?
Graham
9-Mar-2005
[612]
Isn't skip working now in the new alphas ?
JaimeVargas
9-Mar-2005
[613]
I believe so.  But I havent tested this.
Romano
9-Mar-2005
[614]
useful for both, but checksum has not workaround while some workaround 
can be found for parse
Vincent
9-Mar-2005
[615]
like inserting data at tail of parsed string?
Graham
9-Mar-2005
[616x2]
I guess you have to access to the whole file in memory to calculate 
md5s ...
need some other checksum that can be calculated by loading parts 
of a file at a time.
Romano
9-Mar-2005
[618]
Vincent: almost, it is not easy: you must 1) read a chunk of data, 
parse it 2) when parse stop remember the position where it stops 
3) delete parsed data 4) read a ne chunk of the file 5) append it 
to the old data 6) restart parse from the right rule (this is the 
hardest part)
JaimeVargas
9-Mar-2005
[619x2]
Why you think it will be difficult for parse to work natively on 
files?
After all a file is just a binary! series
Romano
9-Mar-2005
[621]
No Jaimie, i wanted only say: "there are NOT workaround for checksum 
 - there are workarounds for parse"
JaimeVargas
9-Mar-2005
[622]
Ok. Then. Can we put feature requests in RAMBO?
Vincent
9-Mar-2005
[623]
Romano: thanks, I will try it - I have a version of rebzip decompressing 
a file while it's downloaded, but the code isn't pretty (two nearly 
same funcs.)
BrianW
9-Mar-2005
[624]
Is there a way to get the name, file, or line number of a function's 
caller?
Tomc
9-Mar-2005
[625x2]
no
the maillist archives will have some very good discussions on the 
subject
BrianW
9-Mar-2005
[627]
ok, thanks
Graham
9-Mar-2005
[628]
How does one lookup MX records ?
Tomc
9-Mar-2005
[629x2]
but it boils down to the fact that code is data, i.e. these function 
calling can emitted from functions which are constructed on the fly, 
so there is no home to phone to.
http://www.webmaster-toolkit.com/mx-record-lookup.shtml
Graham
9-Mar-2005
[631]
So, there is no nslookup utility for rebol ?