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[Core] Discuss core issues

Volker
26-Apr-2006
[4160]
rebgui looks much cleaner IMHO.
Gregg
26-Apr-2006
[4161]
Dialects have to be planned for extensibility, just like languages.
Maxim
26-Apr-2006
[4162]
gregg, exactly... you have to dialect your dialect's  dialecting 
ability  ;-)
Gregg
26-Apr-2006
[4163]
ANY - Not sure what you mean Volker.
Maxim
26-Apr-2006
[4164]
but that's usually harder than the dialect itself, and there are 
no ways to ensure that this door, won't corrupt your dialect itself..
Henrik
26-Apr-2006
[4165]
group created, lets move binary stuff to there
Volker
26-Apr-2006
[4166]
i need two nested blocks. nearly everytime i use 'parse.
Gregg
26-Apr-2006
[4167x3]
i.e. why would a refinement be better than using PARSEs ANY keyword?
Ahhhh.
Would it always return TRUE if /any is used then?
Maxim
26-Apr-2006
[4170]
I will try to re-introduce the previous block parsing engine I had 
built for glass into the newer code.
Volker
26-Apr-2006
[4171]
And that are often 3-liner, which are then 5-liner
parse/any files[
  file!(..) | url! (..)
]
Maxim
26-Apr-2006
[4172]
that dialect (not parse based) could easily implement OOP style polymorphism 
within the dialect!
Volker
26-Apr-2006
[4173]
No, only 'true if the whole rule matches.
Gregg
26-Apr-2006
[4174]
I think that might be confusing, because ANY in a parse rule implies 
optionality.
Volker
26-Apr-2006
[4175x2]
although an error would be nice too, if it does not
  parse/error blk [..]

would throw an error on fail. maybe with hints about the position.
In my use 'any means loop
Gregg
26-Apr-2006
[4177]
How about just using a PARSE-ANY wrapper mezz of your own?
Volker
26-Apr-2006
[4178x2]
Ugly. parse/any looks nicer. And its a bit slower? But does the job.
and its an extra definition in every short script (i never use %user.r 
for libs..)
Gregg
26-Apr-2006
[4180]
Well, post it as a wish then. I haven't needed it, and I'm concerned 
that the dual meaning of ANY in the context of PARSE might be confusing, 
but Carl has the final say.
Volker
26-Apr-2006
[4181]
must not be 'any, its just what is now used inside the dialect. maybe 
parse/many ?
Jerry
27-Apr-2006
[4182]
Most scripting languages (like Ruby) and even some programming languages 
(like Java) support the string-concatenation operator "+".

>> "a" + "b" 
== "ab"


I know that we can use the JOIN function, but a + operator for string 
would be nice too. Why doesn't REBOL do so?
Anton
28-Apr-2006
[4183]
>> "a" + 2 + "b"
** Script Error: Cannot use add on string! value
** Near: "a" + 2 + "b"

>> rejoin ["a" 2 "b"]
== "a2b"

What could be more elegant ?
[unknown: 9]
28-Apr-2006
[4184]
:) (and reads well to).
Anton
28-Apr-2006
[4185]
Yes, I find all those interspersed concatenation operators tiresome 
and ugly.
Terry
28-Apr-2006
[4186]
'rejoin' sounds like it was already joined once
Anton
28-Apr-2006
[4187]
uhuh.
eFishAnt
28-Apr-2006
[4188]
If I knew nothing if programming languages, I would think "a" + "b" 
= "c"   ;-)
Pekr
28-Apr-2006
[4189]
when I first met programming language - basic on 8 bit home computer, 
I could not get how A = A + 1 can be valid :-)
eFishAnt
28-Apr-2006
[4190x2]
to try to patch ubuntu REBOL/Core today for serial ports, I did:
reb-orig: read/binary %rebol
replace/case reb-orig "ttyC0" "ttyc0"
write/binary %rebol-patched reb-orig


...but when I try to run the patched binary it gives some crazy line 
errors.   I differenced the two executibles in REBOL and got some 
crazy differences more than just what I thought I was changing.
(2 of my computers died, so I don't have the hex-edit.r of Ryans...so 
was seeing if I could just patch the binary with REBOL itself.   
Perhaps the replace by strings did some inherent conversion of the 
REBOL executible...not sure.
Maxim
28-Apr-2006
[4192]
you might want to count how many there are first?  if only a few, 
maybe replacing one at a time will end up working?
JaimeVargas
28-Apr-2006
[4193]
I think there is a way to specify your serial ports. I don't remember 
how. I but I have done it the past. I should search my files.
eFishAnt
28-Apr-2006
[4194]
If anyone has hex-edit.r and could post to library...or link...it 
would be appreciated.  I didn't plan to have my computers down.  
It is IOS/Developer/Users/Ryan-Cole/Utilities ... IIRC
JaimeVargas
28-Apr-2006
[4195x4]
Have you tried this?
append System/ports/serial 'ttyc0
port: open serial://port3/9600/8/none/1
This way you don't need to modify the binary et all.
Gregg
28-Apr-2006
[4199]
Hi Jerry, "I know that we can use the JOIN function, but a + operator 
for string would be nice too. Why doesn't REBOL do so?"


Do you think it would be nice because it's more readable, or because 
it's familiar to people coming from languages that have it?


I came to REBOL with a long BASIC history, and it didn't take me 
long before I didn't miss + for concatenation at all. + is really 
a math op; I like REBOL's consistency, and I like the way REBOL concat 
code reads.
eFishAnt
29-Apr-2006
[4200x3]
Jaime...thanks, but I get the same error ... Access Error:  cannot 
open ttyc0
ttyc0 is actually there, and ttyC0 is not (in the /dev directory) 
and I have tried root  and normal passwords.
but I am running AltME on ubuntu now.
Gabriele
29-Apr-2006
[4203]
did you try with ttyc1 etc as well? ttys0?
Edgar
29-Apr-2006
[4204x5]
Why won't you just copy ttyc0 to ttyC0 so you will have both versions?
Never mind. That doesn't seem to work.
Try this:
system/ports/serial: [ttyS1]
port: open serial://port1/9600
JaimeVargas
29-Apr-2006
[4209]
Steve, Regarding "access error" are you sure you have enough user 
rights?