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[unknown: 5] 8-Feb-2009 [12332] | Janko, I had left to shower and eat lunch. Sorry, but you need to check the status on the left. Often times we just disappear. That is kinda what is nice about Altme in a sense is that you know when someone is available or here now by the status. |
Janko 8-Feb-2009 [12333] | :) I was joking .. no problem at all |
Gabriele 9-Feb-2009 [12334] | Janko, the short answer is that you can... except for bindings. (So, in general, no, you can't just save the current state of an app, unless the app is designed for that from the start.) |
Janko 9-Feb-2009 [12335] | can I ask what does it mean "except for bindings" ? you mean like native code libs (bindings) .. or binding in rebol sense which I heard about, but don't fully understand what it means |
Henrik 9-Feb-2009 [12336] | He means rebol bindings. This is a good read on bindings: http://www.fm.tul.cz/~ladislav/rebol/contexts.html |
Will 9-Feb-2009 [12337] | where is Ladislav? buuuu 8( |
Janko 9-Feb-2009 [12338] | Henrik, thanks I will read it |
Henrik 10-Feb-2009 [12339] | Was CHMOD ever implemented for the FTP scheme in REBOL 2? |
Anton 10-Feb-2009 [12340x2] | I don't think so, no. |
That is, it was never built in. Somebody might've hacked it in for their particular situation. | |
Henrik 10-Feb-2009 [12342] | ok, thanks |
Janko 12-Feb-2009 [12343x4] | This is continued from the talk we had with BrianH in the R3 group.. but it's R2 code so (about do/next) |
paralel doer: | |
para-do: func [ codes- /local codes cnt values code- value- all-done ] [ codes: copy codes- cnt: length? codes values: make block! cnt loop cnt [ append values none ] until [ all-done: true repeat idx cnt [ code: pick codes idx if not empty? code [ set/any [ value- code- ] do/next code codes/:idx: code- values/:idx: value- all-done: false print mold value- ] ] all-done ] values ] | |
usage example: >> codes: [ [ a: 12 + 23 b: a + 100 c: b * a ] [ t: join "aaa" join "bbb" "ccc" find t "b" ] ] >> para-do codes 35 aaabbbccc 135 bbbccc 4725 == [4725 "bbbccc"] (it collects results of all blocks when done and returns them) | |
BrianH 12-Feb-2009 [12347] | I wonder if we can do MAP-REDUCE in REBOL :) |
Janko 12-Feb-2009 [12348x4] | (it throws error on expressions that retun unset like print .. because value- get's undef, but it can probably be made to work) |
I think it should be perfectly possible | |
also.. something para-do could be made so that it would send code blocks to multiple rebol processes via tcp or pipes maybe and collect results back | |
it can do 1000 blocks with 5 expressions in 0.03s on my (little slower) comp , 10.000 in 0.25s , 100.000 in 3.75s ... so it seems stepping the blocks is not horribly slow, and I am sure my func could be made better | |
Steeve 12-Feb-2009 [12352] | clearly, it could be faster but i'm not sure of the interest of such thing. If i want a small granularity in a process, i build tiny functions and push them in a to-do stack |
Janko 12-Feb-2009 [12353] | I am also not yet sure how/if this could be usefull :), but as I said it's very impressive that you can do that (I have to go to sleep now) |
Tomc 13-Feb-2009 [12354x2] | I want to partition a block in place ,that is wohout copy.. e.g. blk: [ red green blue plum apple orange ] partition blk 3 >> [ [red green blue] [ plum apple orange ] ] |
without | |
BrianH 13-Feb-2009 [12356x2] | while [not empty? blk] [ blk: change/part blk copy/part blk span ] |
Put that in a function. | |
Tomc 13-Feb-2009 [12358x2] | thanks I have that |
but I am interested in manageing without copy | |
BrianH 13-Feb-2009 [12360] | Sorry, change/part -> change/part/only |
Tomc 13-Feb-2009 [12361] | if it is possible |
Steeve 13-Feb-2009 [12362] | ouch Brian, one second more and it was my reply :) |
BrianH 13-Feb-2009 [12363] | You have to copy - you are turning one series into three (in your example). |
Steeve 13-Feb-2009 [12364] | missing: span span |
BrianH 13-Feb-2009 [12365] | Right :) |
Steeve 13-Feb-2009 [12366x2] | unless [empty? blk: change/part blk copy/part blk span span] (unless is a litlle faster than while) |
just my 2 cents :) | |
BrianH 13-Feb-2009 [12368] | Yes, but he wants it to repeat. |
Tomc 13-Feb-2009 [12369] | on large datasets a copyless repartitioning would be more efficent more like adding pointers to delimiters within the block |
BrianH 13-Feb-2009 [12370] | If you want it to speed up, use until. |
Steeve 13-Feb-2009 [12371x2] | argh, i meant until, not unless |
grrrrrrrrrrr..... | |
BrianH 13-Feb-2009 [12373] | Tomc, you can't do copyless and get subseries, but you can build a block of before and after references. |
Tomc 13-Feb-2009 [12374x2] | thanks steeve that is about what I am doing but while[ not tail block ] [change... |
brian yes that is what bugs me if it was in a file or an un loaded string I could insert brackets to my hearts content . but not once i start useing it. | |
BrianH 13-Feb-2009 [12376] | new: make blk 2 * divide length? blk span while [not tail? blk] [ new: insert/only insert/only blk blk: skip blk span ] new: head new Then use /part references. |
Steeve 13-Feb-2009 [12377] | uh !? |
BrianH 13-Feb-2009 [12378] | make blk -> make block! |
Steeve 13-Feb-2009 [12379] | not only that :) |
BrianH 13-Feb-2009 [12380] | The resluting block will be pairs of references to the beginning and end of his subseries. He can then get any subseries he needs by referencing it using the beginning and references with the /part option of COPY or INSERT, though using CHANGE or REMOVE will mess up the offsets of any subsequent references unless he is referring to a list! type. |
Tomc 13-Feb-2009 [12381] | a rose by any name .... new and block both end up with the data so it is still copying |
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