World: r3wp

I think it is Ladislav, who understands the meaning of the group 
differently. I definitely translate is - post messages you want Carl 
to read. So - in recent situation, when Carl reappeared and is hopefully 
considering next steps, talk about the arguments for open-sourcing 
R3 is pretty much valid in mybook ...

You should read:

- the name of the group

- Carl's original posting (I bet that you did pretending now you 
did not)
- Sunanda's explanation
- etc.


Or you can accuse me of whatever you want, since it is what you *wish*

I didn't notice or think enough, I won't post any more

- name of the group does not explain anything at all imo

- I can see no Carl's original posting, my first message is from 
4/Jan/2004, from Shadwolf. Then Anton, "none", Reviewer and me guessing, 
if it is "from" Carl, or "to" Carl, which in itself clearly shows, 
than more than one person had problem understanding original purpose 
of the group
- Sunanda's explanation is just that -  his opinion
- there is no etc. :-)

-  I am not accusing anyone from anything :-) I know it helps from 
time to time, to keep groups being on-topic, and I can understand 
that in the case of Saphirion, but as for me, recent  Carl only's 
post are far less off topic than some prior discussions in that group.


For god's or anyone sake, it will be best for me to create pekr-only 
group, giving anyone any persmission to post anything :-)

name of the group does not explain anything at all imo

 - it does for anybody being able to read. Your "post messages you 
 want Carl to read" is just twisting the meaning. There is no excuse 
 for you doing so ("I can see no Carl's original posting") since you 
 cannot deny you read the original posting. That would be just another 
 twist of reality (a lie) and you should know it as well as I do. 
 As far as the rest of your twisting logic is presented, I react with 
 "no comment".

Ladislav - I start to think, that sometimes you have really problem 
with perceiving reality, as marking my non rememberance of Carl's 
original post as a lie, is a bit exagerrated imo.


Look - I don't care about any academic claims like "since you cannot 
deny you rea the original posting". The reality is, the group went 
so off-topic even when Carl was presented, that for me it really 
does not matter, how accurate your explanation of original group 
meaning is.


If I, or anyone else think, that it is good to post there any messages 
for Carl to read, then we will do so, easy as that. I think that 
life is more dynamic, than pedantly adhering to rules, especially 
in case there is a proof those rules were far more not adhered to 
in the past. I always do things as I feel them being right, not how 
any "written law" suggests, so If I feel that I want to send a message 
to Carl that way, I will do so.

Now I depart from all this nonsense ...

If I, or anyone else think, that it is good to post there any messages 
for Carl to read, then we will do so, easy as that.

 - yes, that is exactly what I pointed at. It is the "I *wish*" philosophy, 
 which can, in fact, be used to justify everything

Interesting, that even 7 years ago, 5-Jan-2005, the purpose of the 
group was not clear enough to some other ppl. Two messages later 
Carl logged in, not commenting on the purpose of the group itself. 
And to be fair - back at that time I though it is actually from Carl, 
but I don't think so anymore. It's not about the pov change, even 
back then it was all speculation on my, and others side ... 


ReViewer: Just wondering, "Carl Only Messages" means this group is 
read only except for Carl?

Anton: Yes, it's a bit ambiguous, isn' t it ? I think the group creator 
should clarify in the group description whether these are messages 
TO or FROM Carl. (If TO, I think that's a bit hopeful... ;)

pekr: I think it is FROM Carl, as To Carl only you can contact him 
privately ...

none: Actually those would be better name "To Carl" From Carl", Or 
better "Carl Talks" "Carl Listens"


Not that it matters much anyway imo, we simply will stay away from 
that group, to make such a discussion a closed case ...

The goal of having groups at all, and giving them a purpose and some 
loose guidelines for posting, is to make it easier to find the information 
you (we) want.

Ladislav, it's not the "Whish" philosophy, it is the FRUSTRATION 
and DESPERATION philosophy. We are really upset and inpotent about 
the situation.  We feel abandoned. We have devodet part our life 
to this programming language and you more than us. You should understand 
some misbehaving we have falled into. 

However I apologize for my intrusion in "Carl Only" even if without 
us it is an abandoned place.

Happy New Lunar Year!

gongxifacái

haha, gong xi fa cai

xposting here ---

hehe. the greatest &RQ logo with a pointing hand really always greatly 
raises my motivation to develop something :) http://rejetto.com/&RQ/

the motivation is crucial


managers seek hard to rise the motivation. And it's simple: good 
art can do it :)

Steeve: "a braced-string {...} mays contain breaced-strings" - can 
you give an example?

yeah, {{}} is a valid braced-string

>> a: {{}}
== "{}

with the added condition that they must be exactly paired.

yep

ok, that needs a correction

I knew most of rebolers didn't know that rule :-)

It's why I checked that first ;-)

Also, did you  forget binary! ?

#{} 2#{} 64#{] ?

BRACED-STRING - correction committed

I just did not write many datatypes yet

Ok I see now, some values are still missing

Ok :)

binary-syntax added

IIRC, whitespace is allowed in 16-binaries

lf as well

16#{} prefix also allowed

yep!

>>16#{F F F
    F}
== #{FFFF}

seems it"s true for 2#{} also, didn't check for 64#

OK, thanks, whitespace in binaries committed

(I am not sure I defined WHITESPACE correctly, though)

seems legit to me

seems legit to me

just missing :
binary-16: [opt "16" "#{" ....

the binary! datatype is a hard one ;-)

committed

Does anyone know how to change the world password?

did you forget the rebol4 master passwed?

no, I used a personal one for the world (not master), that I don't 
wish to share.

but... something strange is happening. I can't login and neither 
can Gregg.

I can't log in on rebol4 either

The world is running, but noone is allowed to log in.

could it be that you can't change the IP of the world server so quickly?

rebol4 just said me to check password