World: r3wp

The only two not in "Math" is Paul and Dockimbel. Paul choosed himself 
not to be in "Math". I know this, because I asked him privately. 
Later Doc was excluded from "Math". It can't have been Paul, who 
excluded Doc, as Paul wasn't in "Math". So either Doc choosed himself 
to not be in "Math" or someone kicked him. I've asked Doc privately 
to figure this out.

(Or it could be a mistake by someone or an error in AltME.)

My question was more related to the private goups ..
as  !Compression, Politics, Flex, HLA etc

I don't see any of those.

Maybe Reichart has a backup ready? :-)

There is a Compression group still existing, and it is set as public 
- all users should see it.

AFAIK, even if you are booted from a private group the messages are 
still on your local drive.

Some time ago there was a debate (dunno what group it was in) about 
making online tutorials. Could you please suggest me some tool? On 
of my folks used Wink tool, but I am not satisfied with the result, 
but maybe he just applied wrong settings - the letters could not 
be read, unless I enlarged it to 150%, but then it did not fit the 
screen .... I don't need voice, I would be OK with titles, and ability 
to let user read the comment, and then press some button to proceed 
...

I'll do me very best to tread here lightly...


- First, I have no direct control over this world, but will indeed 
try to help.


- Paul, it is a little bit like an "after school special TV show" 
when you accuse someone without knowing for sure.  It might all fit 
for you, but perhaps siding with best in your fellow man would serve 
you better than siding with the worse?


- If I were to make a guess here, someone, not understanding the 
interface to remove themselves from a bunch of groups, might have 
in fact gone out and deleted them instead, and may not even realize 
they did this.

On that last item, I can see that happening.

I think that last one did happen before, back around when I first 
joined...

I'm looking for a free server which allows rebol cgi.  I want to 
start coding a new site for all my work, rebol, music, visual arts, 
blogs, etc...  does anyone have free space/bandwidth on a server 
they can share?

I'll be purchasing a Domain name for it once setup.

it seems the shortest path these days is something like a linode 
VPS, but of course there will be a monthy fee for that too. The advantage 
is that you can pay per month, if you only need a month for testing 
a site, it'll cost 20 $.

If you are good with linux (command line) this one is the cheapest 
and offers the most, but you have to know your way around linux a 
little better than Linode or Slicehost  
http://prgmr.com/xen/

does it allow remote xwindows sessions?

you can install anything on VPS so I think if you can install them 
and have enough ram on VPS it should work, but I have no concrete 
idea

(install xwindow server I meant -- I am not a linux pro)

I used to be an SGI Irix expert... the cleanest unix desktop I've 
used. man sooo long ago hehe

cool , I used Linode and they are highly recommended by users , this 
prgmr sounds interesting approach too so I might try it when I need 
VPS

Installing cheyenne or rebol is easy and I don't need much else :)

linode looks very cool :-)

I think I'll be getting an linode account cheap, and very well designed 
vps controls   :-)

there are a couple of videos on linode's site. if you follow them, 
the setup is frightningly simple.

looking at them right now   :-D

this is insane!  my 8 year old could setup a web-visible server in 
minutes.

I'm not really gonna go back to regular webhosting now. This stuff 
offers so much more.

automatic fall back on crashes, instant server re-installs, this 
rocks.  and its so well designed from the management stand-point 
 :-)

what's the best linux for rebol... ubunto?

I use a minimal 32-bit debian. Worked immediately.

I use debian for server side, most things work on it

do the view parts work on debian, like AGG fonts?

(I need this for server-side image processing)

I think View requires an X-Windows running locally, but I'm not sure.

Maxim, I played around with the X Window system on a Linode 360. 
If I remember correctly I was able to get REBOL/View running on it.

I used the NXServer software from nomachine.com to connect to it.

ok, in any case for 20$ its not going to risk me selling my arm to 
do the test... I mean, it costs more to go out for one lunch at the 
restaurant  ;-)

What are you talking about? Using some virtualised server providers?

yep

setting up and booting a vps on linode takes exactly 4 mouse clicks! 
 and you can log into it using ssh right there and then !  :-)  this 
is going to be really nice.

are those servers fault tollerant? backed-up?

So maybe I will not build my new server, but rent some virtualised 
one, create tunnel to it (to allow sendmail on our local network), 
install Ubuntu server, and be done ...

yep, linode has free backups for the os, automatic fall-back to other 
server on crash, auto-reboot. all runs on raid, with ups, etc.

I have one server here, which just takes 220Watts ... it costs really 
X-times more, than to rent that server ....

yep, for 20$ a month per 200mb transfer, its pretty cheap.  obviously, 
you are sharing CPU bandwith, but for most uses, this is a non-issue, 
unless you have a heavily visited site (several hundred hits a minute)

sorry..thats 200GB/month

Pekr, I decided against buying a new HD for my old server. The Linode 
is much cheaper and there is of course much more bandwidth. I think 
there is a big advantage to it.

I can get what... 5-6 months of Linode for one disk? That's pretty 
good.

Well, I need secondary router anyway for fail-over, so I might use 
it for my linux server too. We are buying currently 50mbit, having 
something like 550 ppl

But - I never tried Xen based virtualisation and Mikrotik will not 
allow me to use my favourite vmware ESXi.

I'm like a Ghost