World: r3wp

this is pretty cool .. using lame.exe and mpegrec.exe I can record 
voice to mp3 .. now to see if I can get it done using Rebol to control 
it all.

simple as :   mpegrec -o c:\temp\graham.mp3

should be as easy as building a command line

I hope so.

mpegrec download page: http://www.netwaysglobal.com/mpegrec/

I don't see why there would be any problems with that.

lame.exe binary download page: http://www.snapfiles.com/download/dllame.html

no way I can see to send a control-c to terminate mpegrec

http://www.rebol.com/docs/shell.html

perhaps call/console ...

at least there is the mpegrec source.

have to put aside a year or first to learn C++

in mpegrec.cpp there is:

BOOL WINAPI terminateEarly(  DWORD dwCtrlType )
{
	++ctrl_c_hit;
	cerr << "(Stopping on CTRL-C)" << endl;
//	if(recorder) recorder->SignalRecordingToEnd();
	return TRUE;
}

I might try later to compile it but I have to go get some bread now...

I tried call/console .. but to pass the control-C back, I have to 
input that into the dos shell window and not the console.

yeah I don't think that's going to work.

I think the way to go is to convert the source into a DLL and recompile. 
I would like to try a bit later - but first - bread.

bread it is :)

I've got voicemail working but ... have to control c into the dos 
shell.

bah, no luck compiling mpegrec using bloodshed C++ environment - 
need MS Visual Studio environment

my hacking attempts just led to very obscure bugs that I can't be 
bothered tracking

I'll try a different way

bloodshed C++ ?

Yeah, seems a pretty nice small environment. Can make DLL's very 
easily. Of course, there are problems compiling stuff from other 
environments...

I tried it recently and made a DLL which I interfaced with rebol 
very quickly.

does it include all the windows stuff?

err... I think not all... because I was missing a file winmm.lib 
(which I found in masm32 distribution), and mmreg.h (which I found 
on the web, though don't know if if was right version)

It has *some* windows stuff, obviously, in order to create a windows 
DLL, it uses windows.h...

mmmm... I don't think I have another way... I really do need to compile 
it, one way or another..

created "Windows (MS)" group -> let's go there...

Winmm.dll is the MCI interface in Windows. With that interface you 
can control many multimedia stuff (wave form playing, video playing, 
recording...)

It has two interface : C++ level and string command. The last one 
sounds easy to interface with view/pro. But, eh, I never played with 
DLL interfacing in rebol.
So I let that to "make routine!" guru ;-)

So, what is the latest version of make-doc ppl do use? I can see 
nice output done by Chris, but Gabriele's YourValues html looks nice 
too .. anyone?

mine is actually Chris' one

do you use his on-line formatter or is anywhere source availalble?

online

I downloaded make-doc.r from rebol.org, I know there is also make-doc2 
which RT uses, but I wonder if it is publicly available? I would 
like to know, how safe I am using Robert's make-doc-pro, as there 
seems to be project regarding make-doc at rebol.net, but dunno status, 
progress ...

Pekr, they will all be pretty consistent, so you shouldn't have to 
worry too much.

If anyone has any requests as to how I'm putting together the name 
of dividers, or where I put stuff, speak up.  I try to get things 
organized, so that I have some clue when I pop in here what a given 
group refers to.

Like Vanilla.  Just having it under a diviver that says Products 
helps a lot.

funny in a 'geek' way... http://khason.biz/blog/2004/12/why-microsoft-can-blow-off-with-c.html

I can imagine following kind of UI being done with View ... except 
video and audio playback for now ...  http://www.mythtv.org/modules.php?name=MythFeatures

Carl ! Your beard is required NOW !!!

Petr, that should be doable -- though it depends whether anyone has 
reason or motivation to implement it...

I'm working on a sound library, for /Core and /View, with - for now 
- AIFF / 8SVX / AU / WAVE (PCM/float/u-law/A-law) support (read and 
write). Any suggestion for another usefull format to support?

mp3 :)

CELP, QCELP, ... ;-)

EVRC

Vincent: http://www.fmod.orgwas suggested by Cyphre, but we don't 
know if RT would add it. But who knows, - we now have AGG :-)

Has anyone used UML in real-life. Or even more precise - is UML worth 
studying? I want to construct some system, which will have some object 
model, inheritance, classes, but dunno if UML is worth studying as 
reference. I have read few chapters - seems like cool thing, but 
a bit difficult to swallow - too many terms etc. ....

REBOL cuts out the bureacracy of UML and implements direct.  Schler-Mellor 
and Grady Brooch have some "noble" goals (but the devil's in the 
implementation), but have never faced anything as powerful as REBOL 
yet for implementation.  I saw Mellor talk once, and he did a great 
talk on "orthogonal behavior" which is apropos.  I think the way 
to utilize their mess is to do it simpler in REBOL, call it UMLR 
and teach them the future.