Where can I get documentation for the in-built functions of REBOL
[1/10] from: gunjan:ezeenet at: 11-Jan-2001 21:29
Hi Gurus,
Where can I get more documentation for the in-built functions of REBOL, specially functions
like parse-xml etc.
These functions add a lot of power to Rebol but because of lack of information, newbies
like me will always need a very co-operative maillist (like this one... Elan saved hours
of my sleep with his URL-parser object and a pointer to net-util functions... thanks
Elan) or tons of luck (so that I commit a spelling mistake while typing help and then
discover something which I had been needing since ages... actually parse-xml was one
such accident...).
If there is any material or book or stuff that I can read that'll introduce me to all
these then kindly inform. (And yes, I HAVE read the user manuals, both the html and the
pdf ones and the user guide for REBOL/VIEW and some general websites and source codes
available on the net)
Gunjan
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[2/10] from: carl:cybercraft at: 12-Jan-2001 11:11
On 12-Jan-01, Gunjan Karun wrote:
> Hi Gurus,
> Where can I get more documentation for the in-built functions of
> REBOL, specially functions like parse-xml etc.
Well, this doesn't help you at all, but neither parse-xml or xml gets
a mention in the indexes of "REBOL for Dummies" or "REBOL the
Official Guide." (That said, everyone who's seriously into REBOL
should get the Dummies book at least. Excellent for finding info
about REBOL/Core in a hurry. (Usually. :) )
Maybe the REBOL XML words are not in a finished state yet?
--
Carl Read
[carl--cybercraft--co--nz]
[3/10] from: rebol:techscribe at: 11-Jan-2001 15:46
Hi Carl,
guess I'll have toot my own horn. REBOL - Official Guide, p. 688:
The object net-utils also provides some other useful Net-oriented
convenience functions, most notabley thr URL-Parser object, which
includes the function parse-url.
Perhaps it would be an idea to put together an inofficial Webpage that
documents undocumented functions? It would be nice to have a Webpage
that will accept email message, and if we could agree on a standard
format (perhaps following REBOL's User Guide format) for emails
describing the functions, and a REBOL script that generates such emails,
then we could easily notify the Webpage of functions we happen to come
across. Maybe Allen could host this page on his REBOLforces.com server
(which is why cc'd this messsage to him personally). Any takers?
Carl Read wrote:
[4/10] from: rchristiansen:pop:isdfa:sei-it at: 11-Jan-2001 18:06
I have written a script which will do this for you. Find information
about it here...
http://www.bebits.com/app/1226
or just download it here...
http://www.beosjournal.com/rebol/News_Site_2.5.zip
Set up a POP account, configure the %configuration.r file, and you're
good to go. The %configuration.r file lets you specify specific
reporters
who can contribute to the page.
-Ryan
[5/10] from: bo:rebol at: 12-Jan-2001 11:21
This is one good option.
There are a couple other options available now (or in the future for some
of you):
- Rebol.org has a wiki with REBOL functions where contributors can
add their own information regarding the different functions. I
just tried it out and it appears to be fully functional.
http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/wiki.r
- REBOL/Express (which will likely be opened up as a public beta
before too long) has at least a couple different tools already
built-in to help with organizing and delivering this type of
information.
* Reference.r is a lot like the above wiki.r where it allows
information to be added directly to the relevant function's
entry.
* The Knowledge Base is a user-extensible expert system that
can contain undocumented information, problem workarounds,
general knowledge, technical support help, etc. The
knowledge base can optionally be exported as a static web
site mirror of the data available in the knowledge base.
This may be done once the amount of data available in the
knowledge base is sufficient to warrant this.
At some point, I imagine someone will harvest information from all
available sources into one central master resource. The good news is
that there are at least a few options available out there. Now people
just need to use them!
-Bo
On 11-Jan-2001/18:06:11-6:00, [RChristiansen--pop--isdfa--sei-it--com] wrote:
>I have written a script which will do this for you. Find information
>about it here...
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>[rebol-request--rebol--com] with "unsubscribe" in the
>subject, without the quotes.
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[6/10] from: g:santilli:tiscalinet:it at: 12-Jan-2001 18:54
Hello Elan!
On 12-Gen-01, you wrote:
E> Perhaps it would be an idea to put together an inofficial
E> Webpage that documents undocumented functions? It would be
It is a nice idea, but I'd like to warn you and others that
there's something like that already. It's not public, I don't know
if I can talk of it, and I don't know when it will be made public.
Regards,
Gabriele.
--
Gabriele Santilli <[giesse--writeme--com]> - Amigan - REBOL programmer
Amiga Group Italia sez. L'Aquila -- http://www.amyresource.it/AGI/
[7/10] from: rebol:techscribe at: 12-Jan-2001 12:14
Hi Gabriele,
what's the point of having a non-public documentation of undocumented
functions? Isn't something like having an expired credit card issued by
a bank that doesn't exit? (Not quite, but I like the image ...)
Anyway, if whoever has that documentation wants to make it public, cool.
If not, then why should that prevent us from creating our own?
Take Care,
Elan
Gabriele Santilli wrote:
[8/10] from: rebol:techscribe at: 12-Jan-2001 12:17
Hi Bo,
you wrote:
> - REBOL/Express (which will likely be opened up as a public beta
> before too long)
Finally. It has been suspiciously quiet lately. So, when, when, when?
[9/10] from: jeff:rebol at: 12-Jan-2001 12:19
> Hi Bo,
> you wrote:
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> Finally. It has been suspiciously quiet lately. So, when,
> when, when?
Yeah, when? I really want to know too! :-)
[10/10] from: g:santilli:tiscalinet:it at: 13-Jan-2001 14:43
Hello Elan!
On 12-Gen-01, you wrote:
E> what's the point of having a non-public documentation of
E> undocumented functions? Isn't something like having an expired
It not public because it is a beta product. As Bo said, it will
be probably released soon (I was referring to Reference.r).
Also, I didn't mean to stop you from doing it; but I know you (and
the others) don't probably have all that free time to spend... :)
Regards,
Gabriele.
--
Gabriele Santilli <[giesse--writeme--com]> - Amigan - REBOL programmer
Amiga Group Italia sez. L'Aquila -- http://www.amyresource.it/AGI/
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