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ANN: RIDE Beta Test

 [1/9] from: ammon:rcslv at: 11-Nov-2002 2:01


Hi, I am now accepting applications to beta test RIDE. For those of you who are not familiar with what RIDE is... REBOL Integrated Development Environment (RIDE) is exactly that an integrated development environment for REBOL. The highlights are: RIDE/View --- A GUI face building tool, currently the engine is basically done, need some testing though and, ironically, its GUI needs some work before it will be ready for a public launch... RIDE/Core --- An editor with context sensitive autocomplete and help. In a somewhat complete form, needs testing and some of the feature smoothed out. RIDE/ObjectEditor --- An Object Browser similar to Annamonitor, but with the ability to edit and save Objects to file (nice if you are working with a reletively large script that you can break up into section in an object) RIDE/Guru --- A help system that I hope will actually help. The information will mostly be compiled from this mail list. Just in the making, but should be testable by the time the beta begins. The initial test will be on an IOS Server. A stand alone version of RIDE will be available later, depending on how the IOS testing goes, hopefully before the end of the first quarter 2003. Please do NOT reply to this message on the list to apply, but send an email to [ammon--nutronx--com] Enjoy!! Ammon

 [2/9] from: ammon:rcslv at: 11-Nov-2002 10:53


Hi again, I have receieved a couple of questions multiple times, so here are some more details on the RIDE beta... I will be hosting an IOS Server named RIDE, it will work just like any other IOS Server, you will be able to Link up and comunicate with other developers, it will eventual have some CVS tools and be a comunity much like SourceForge, but with messaging capabilities that will far outdo SourceForge for productivity. You will not need to be connected all of the time, in fact only the messaging reblets will require you to have a net connection active to use them. I would like to have a little information on your background if you would like to beta test so that I kow your experience level. (i.e. how long have you been using REBOL, how long have you been programing and what languages...) HTH Ammon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ammon Cooke" <[ammon--rcslv--com]> To: <[rebol-list--rebol--com]> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 2:01 AM Subject: [REBOL] ANN: RIDE Beta Test
> Hi, > > I am now accepting applications to beta test RIDE. For those of you
who are not familiar with what RIDE is...
> REBOL Integrated Development Environment (RIDE) is exactly that an
integrated development environment for REBOL. The highlights are:
> RIDE/View --- A GUI face building tool, currently the engine is basically
done, need some testing though and, ironically, its GUI needs some work before it will be ready for a public launch...
> RIDE/Core --- An editor with context sensitive autocomplete and help. In a
somewhat complete form, needs testing and some of the feature smoothed out.
> RIDE/ObjectEditor --- An Object Browser similar to Annamonitor, but with
the ability to edit and save Objects to file (nice if you are working with a reletively large script that you can break up into section in an object)
> RIDE/Guru --- A help system that I hope will actually help. The
information will mostly be compiled from this mail list. Just in the making , but should be testable by the time the beta begins.
> The initial test will be on an IOS Server. A stand alone version of RIDE
will be available later, depending on how the IOS testing goes, hopefully before the end of the first quarter 2003.

 [3/9] from: chalz:earthlink at: 11-Nov-2002 13:15


> Hi again,
Howdy.
> I have receieved a couple of questions multiple times, so here are some > more details on the RIDE beta...
Cool, thanks!
> You will not need to be connected all of the time, in fact only the > messaging reblets will require you to have a net connection active to use > them.
Okay. I was almost afraid one would have to stay connected with IOS in the background to use RIDE, considering the vast amount of resources you're proposing - help, objects, GUI, etc. It would strike me that the help files would take up the most space, considering REBOL's design and resultant size.
> I would like to have a little information on your background if you > would like to beta test so that I kow your experience level. (i.e. how long > have you been using REBOL, how long have you been programing and what > languages...)
Perfectly fair. I have to say I'm still rather a novice with REBOL. I've been using it more or less for about 2.5yrs now, I think. However, I don't use it constantly, and so I haven't progressed very far. I haven't coded a simple Hello World in /View yet - I tend to stick to /Core as most of the scripts I write end up being back-end and utility style. I can't say I write the most elegant REBOL. My mind still tends to work in a C style. I first started programming on a Commodore Vic20 when I was about 6 years old (I'm almost 25 right now). Eventually we ended up with a PC and I did GWBASIC and QBASIC, but it's been well over a decade since I touched them. My first real, analytical approach to coding came in the multi-user "MOO" environment roughly 7 years ago, and I continue to use it to this day, though I'd have to say I'm a high intermediate rather than expert or guru. My first semester of university focused around C and C++ for Unix environments, but most of that has faded from my mind, save for structure - which is why my REBOL tends to be big and over-spaced. (However, I prefer readability over condensed code.) I also dabbled in Java 1.1 and VRML 2.0 some 3 years ago, but didn't get far, and did some VB5 about 4 or 5yrs ago. I still say I'm a novice with REBOL, but not a newbie or beginner. However, I feel that I can bring a couple talents to the table not everyone else can. First, I've been trained as a proofer/editor in English. If I spot a typo, spelling error, or grammatical error, you'll know about it. If you wish me to be lax in my proofing, I can be very lax. If you wish me to be cranked right up to "Anal," I will criticize every word, format and punctuation which does not jive with me. I also have a tendancy to break things which no one else has. Often times, code which has been run successfully for months at a time will break under my hands under normal usage. Anyways, </bs>. Mostly, I desire to try out new software which interests me at every chance I can. I can give you suggestions on GUI and layout, spelling and wording in general. Despite what some people say about the color scheme on my personal homepage (neon green on black), I know what I like when I see it (I purposely chose that scheme), and can tell you what's horrid about it. I really would like to give this a shot. Right now I'm working on a project to index 13MB of mailing list archive .txt files, convert them into HTML, and provide an index of key words. Something with some more stomp than Notepad would be appreciated. I usually use NoteTab Pro, but am constantly alt-tabbing between it and about 3 other windows while doing REBOL code. So, there ya go. If you find me satisfactory, rock on. If not, no big deal, I'll wait until version 1.0.0 comes out ;) Thanks. --Charles

 [4/9] from: rebol665:ifrance at: 11-Nov-2002 19:25


Hi, Ammon If I am correct, only people with IOS can test RIDE at the moment. Pat

 [5/9] from: ammon:rcslv at: 11-Nov-2002 12:38


Hi, No, if you are selected to test RIDE, you will recieve a link client and an account on the RIDE Server. Enjoy!! Ammon

 [6/9] from: chalz:earthlink at: 11-Nov-2002 13:43


Son of a .... How did this end up over here?!?!?! Dammit!! I'm sorry folks :(( I thought Ammon had replied directly to me, so I hit 'reply'. Nerts :(

 [7/9] from: gchiu::compkarori::co::nz at: 12-Nov-2002 8:19


If Amon shelled out $2000 for an IOS server, he will have obtained 10 licenses that he can dish out to beta testers. This I think applies to both non and current IOS users. So, you can see why Amon has be to highly selective in his choice of beta testers. -- Graham

 [8/9] from: reffy:ulrich at: 11-Nov-2002 13:58


Did I hear someone say there was a bunch of Nerts here ?? Who you callin a NERT ??

 [9/9] from: chalz:earthlink at: 11-Nov-2002 15:04


Yearh, er, um, uh.. yeah... Nerts... ;)