Cross 'X' Platform?
[1/3] from: laurencegiddings:mac at: 26-Sep-2002 9:15
After reading the long discussions recently on the importance/significance of Rebols multi platform/OS capabilities I am prompted to ask once again when support for the Macintosh OS X system might be forth coming? Considering the Mac community is estimated to be around 25 million users and there is a strong developer community within that user base and remembering that the Mac, especially in its new OS X guise is both a very internet/connection orientated and 'open' system for both application and connectivity development. I really cannot understand the apparent lack of interest in developing/delivering a rebol /Core and /View package to support such a large and growing section of the computing community. Especially as many of the new Mac OS X users are switching not from windows but from Unix and Linux systems which Rebol currently supports. IMHO a computer savvy Mac OS X user/developer writing cross platform rebol apps to enable them to transfer/re-use their functionality in a Win 98/XP/NT office, for example, would appear to be a perfect vehicle for the much discussed break through of Rebol to a wider community. On a personal note my own Rebol aspirations are necessarily on hold until such time as I can run Rebol on my operating system of choice..... Mac OS X. [I can't afford either the money or the time to run a PC just to develop Rebol apps on] I know there are a few Mac users around on this ML, but I am sure there would be many many more if RT would only support us.....
[2/3] from: jason::cunliffe::verizon::net at: 25-Sep-2002 23:34
> I know there are a few Mac users around on this ML, but I am sure there > would be > many many more if RT would only support us.....
Yes damn right. Of course MacOSX needs to be supported, and now. Have you lobbied RT directly about this? Please do I would have thought that since REBOL already supports so many Unix systems, MacOSX would be a fast and easy port. The timing would be good now too, MacOSX Now if REBOL was openSource.... it would have probably been done by now. [yanrwrsbos] Also I suspect Mac users would be very happy to develop cool stuff with REBOL. It is more in the spirit of Applescript. The Mac world is the platform of choice sophisticated visual designers. So RT would stand a much better chance of getting some really nicel ooking apps to show off. ./Jason [OT] My last Mac was Quadra840AV with RadiusVideoVision[endless scsi + reboot torture]. I ran MachTen on it, serious Mach Unix running as Mac process. yes fun! Did lots QuarkXpress and Premiere work. In 1996 caved in and bought my first PC, Win95 because urgently needed VRML support and the MAC software all lagged badly behind.. Over the years most of the multimedia software I wanted has been available cross platform. Some of it runs much better on win32, like FlashMX. The best has often been open source and cross platform anyway, like Python, Zope, PD.... But somehow the Mac ports are just that painful distance behind. Instead of FinalCutPro3 we use Sonic Foundry's excellent VegasVideo3. http://www.sonicfoundry.com/PRODUCTS/NewShowProduct.asp?PID=612 So after 6 years I have this big investment in PC software. Plus all the hot-keys and utilities to zoom along with. The first OSX looked clunky, but its picking up nicely. Now I read all over the place that OSX has people compiling all the cool openSource Linux tools. Last month I had a QuarkXpress job. I went ****ing nuts trying to get their fonts to work on my PC. No way.. I tried all manner of conversion tools and finally surrendered. I thought those X-platform days were over! Time for a shiny souped up new Jaguar:-) But no extra paychecks recently to pay for it [hard times]. Damn yes I hope REBOL makes it to OSX soon. One more good reason to buy a Mac!
[3/3] from: joel:neely:fedex at: 26-Sep-2002 13:26
Hi, Laurence, Adding some support to your concerns... Although I routinely work on w2k, w9x, Solaris, Linux, and (still a little) HP-UX, my personal box of choice is running Mac OS X. Laurence Giddings wrote:
> After reading the long discussions recently on the > importance/significance of Rebols multi platform/OS > capabilities I am prompted to ask once again when > support for the Macintosh OS X system might be forth > coming? >
> ... Especially as many of the new Mac OS X users are > switching not from windows but from Unix and Linux systems > which Rebol currently supports. >
It appears from what I'm seeing on the web that a growing number of people are leaning that way. See below. http://www.byte.com/documents/s=7620/byt1032475416823/0923_bar.html http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/09/26/0058238&mode=thread&tid=107 http://www.apple.com/uk/hotnews/articles/simoncozens/ http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/09/22/1922205&mode=thread&tid=106 -jn-