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[1/2] from: al::bri::xtra::co::nz at: 15-Oct-2000 23:32
Rishi, please forgive me for editing your writing, but I found it difficult
to read.
Rishi wrote:
> In my mind, [rebol-developers--egroups--com] is a place where the only things
discussed are programming tips, help, solutions, etc.
That sounds good. I'd like the name of the [rebol-developers--egroups] list to
be better though. How about these:
[Rebol-Tips--egroups--com]
[Rebol-Help--egroups--com]
[Rebol-Solutions--egroups--com]
[Rebol-Aid--egroups--com]
[Rebol-Aide--egroups--com] - I quite like this one.
[Rebol-Advice--egroups--com]
[Rebol-Solutions--egroups--com] - Sounds more like a consultancy.
[Your suggestion here.]
The name has to instantly say to the person who's reading about it and
who's thinking, 'what's it all about?' [Rebol-List--egroups--com] doesn't do it
(neither did [list--rebol--com] either), but it does serve as a name for the
[list--rebol--com] replacement.
Once we've decided on a better name, I'll tranfer people's email from
this list, [Rebol-List--egroups--com], to the new list
[Rebol-The-New-Name-Here--egroups--com].
> Some people were complaining that there was too much advocacy in main list
and wanted a separate list just for development discussions.
As I wrote before, [Rebol-Advocacy--egroups--com] doesn't sound like a list for
that purpose, sounding instead like a name for a government pressure group.
How about these:
[Rebol-Development--egroups--com] - Sounds more like the one above!
[Rebol-Prospects--egroups--com]
[Rebolution--egroups--com] - I quite like this one!
[Rebol-Directions--egroups--com]
[Your suggestion here.]
> I don't think rebol-core and rebol-view are good subdivisions. Everything
that applies to rebol/core applies to rebol/view. rebol/core is a subset. I
also think everyone in rebol/command would be interested in rebol/view since
that will probably end up being subset in future.
I think you're quite right. This also agree with pekr, I believe. I, too,
would like to be able to have a Rebol/View with /Command incorporated.
Ryan wrote:
> I think just Core, View, and this one (List) is probably optimum from my
perspective, but the others lists didn't seem unreasonable. Myself, I am no
longer very interested in Core discussions. I may even drop this one, and
just subscribe to View. I like the List, its just a lot emails to deal
with.
Rishi wrote:
> Personally, I'd rather just have one rebol list (like this one) where we
discuss everything rebol related. I just don't want fragmentation and have
to jump around to a bunch of different lists...
I could alter the description of:
[Rebol-Core--egroups--com]
[Rebol-View--egroups--com]
[Rebol-Command--egroups]
to emphasize the specific nature of these lists, and to be more an
announcement list, for when new versions of these producets are available
from Rebol, and for specific question and answers solely about those
products.
That way, Ryan can subscribe to [Rebol-View--egroups--com] and drop the
others, as that it is his declared intent.
Andrew Martin
Rebol brainstorming...
ICQ: 26227169
http://members.nbci.com/AndrewMartin/
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rishi Oswal" <[rishi--g-viz--com]>
To: <[Rebol-List--egroups--com]>
Sent: Saturday, 14 October 2000 5:45 PM
Subject: [Rebol-List] Re: so..
> In my mind, rebol-developers is a place where the only thingsdiscussed are
programming tips, help, solutions, etc.. Some peoplewere complaining that
there was to much advocacy in main list andwanted a seperate list just for
development discussions.I don't think rebol-core and rebol-view are good
subdivisions.Everything that applies to rebol/core applies torebol/view.
rebol/core is a subset.I also think everyone inrebol/command would be
interested in rebol/view since that willprobably end up being subset in
future...Personally, I'd rather just have one rebol list (like this one)
wherewe discuss everything rebol related. I just don't want fragmentation
and have to jump around to a bunch ofdifferent lists...--- In
[Rebol-List--egroups--com], "Andrew Martin" <[Al--Bri--x]> wrote:> Ryan wrote:> >
This list is still unmoderated, and by its charter we can stilldiscuss>
everything.> > That's right.> > > I do think that there is a danger of too
much fragmentation ofthe list,> but we're not there yet.> > Fragmentation is
bad, because it means that people miss out.> > > At the present time I think
many people unsubscribe from the listbecause> of the bombardment of email.>
> Or because something has just failed at Rebol-HQ! [list--r]... is> repeatedly
sending Joel's last email!!> > Andrew Martin> ICQ: 26227169>
http://members.nbci.com/AndrewMartin/> -><-
[2/2] from: carl:cybercraft at: 15-Oct-2000 21:20
On 15-Oct-00, Andrew Martin wrote:
> Rishi, please forgive me for editing your writing, but I found it
> difficult to read.
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> consultancy.
> [Your suggestion here.]
I'm coming in a bit late to this discussion it seems, but I take it
the above are alternative suggestions to [Rebol-List--egroups--com] ? If
so, then how about Rebol-General as I feel the other Lists (such as
Core and View) are where people are more likely to go for help.
> The name has to instantly say to the person who's reading about
> it and who's thinking, 'what's it all about?' [Rebol-List--egroups--com]
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> [Rebol-Directions--egroups--com]
> [Your suggestion here.]
Well, I'd suggest Rebol-General would cover this too.
>> I don't think rebol-core and rebol-view are good subdivisions.
>> Everything
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> too, would like to be able to have a Rebol/View with /Command
> incorporated.
I personally favour them staying seperate as, if nothing else, it
helps to break up the emails you receive into some sort of order.
It's only new users who wouldn't know where Core ends and View
begins, and the New list's for them and will no doubt cover all
topics. It's not as though we have to join one or other of the
lists. Those interested in View and Command will most certainly also
join Core, though there may be some who're only interested in Core
and some only in View and Core. I didn't join Command for instance
as I don't see myself getting it any time soon.
Also, regarding Rebol-Defects ... This sounds more like it's related
to the design of the language than just bugs, while I believe the
list's main focus is for creating a bug-list, isn't it? If so, then
Rebol-Bugs makes more sense to me.
> Ryan wrote:
>> I think just Core, View, and this one (List) is probably optimum
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>> this one, and just subscribe to View. I like the List, its just a
>> lot emails to deal with.
I feel the same way, and I'd been thinking there should be at least a
seperate newbies' list before the eGroups suggestion was made. The
old list would've been a bit daunting to someone who'd never
programmed before.
> Rishi wrote:
>> Personally, I'd rather just have one rebol list (like this one)
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> http://members.nbci.com/AndrewMartin/
> -><-
Finally, thanks for running with this Andrew. It's appreciated.
Also, I know someone who finally joined a REBOL list when they heard
the New one existed, so they may help to increase the number of REBOL
users too.
Carl Read.
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