[REBOL] Compiler for Rebol ? Re:(8)
From: jhagman:infa:abo:fi at: 28-Sep-2000 19:14
Quoting [joel--neely--fedex--com] ([joel--neely--fedex--com]):
> [jhagman--infa--abo--fi] wrote:
> > Quoting [joel--neely--fedex--com] ([joel--neely--fedex--com]):
> > > Carl's support for MS operating systems doesn't keep me from
> > > using any of several varieties of Unix/Linux (except Debian, but
> > > that's another issue!), MacOS, etc.
> > What's wrong with Debian? I am just being curious because that is the
> > distribution I am using...
> > - Jussi
> THIS time, the box set up for the mtg was running Debian. Both the
> public beta of /View and the current rlse of /Core blew up instead
> of running.
Yes, that's the demo effect! :) I hope you tested rebol on that
machine _before_ the demo...
> I didn't report it at the time because the box was
> Debian Unstable, and assumed that maybe the guy who set it up was
> just a little too close to the edge.
> Since then, I've seen traffic on this list indicating that others have
> had problems with REBOL on Debian, so perhaps my experience wasn't so
> unique or box-owner-dependent after all???
Yes, problem was the guy running the box, not Debian not even it's
unstableness. The root of the problem lies in rebol using an _ancient_
library called termcap. Debian does not have this library in it's
normal distribution but in _oldlibs_ as it is very old it is compiled
against libc5. As other libraries and rebol are compiled against libc6
and those two don't mix the crash occurs.
The guy running the box just has not removed the old libtermcap. He
surely has no programs depending on it anymore. The workaround is to
remove the libtermcap and make link from libncurses to libtermcap.
So, it is not Debian's fault that the guy wanted to keep an old libc5
library installed. Sure Debian is somewhat harder to install than
RedHat. But it has some other virtues (atleast for power users and
And for my part, no I was not up for the task either and had
libtermcap installed once, but that has been long gone. I surely
wondered about the problem for a long time. I would suggest REBOL to
include a warning to the readme on this. It seems that a lot of people
have debian installed with the libtermcap.
Jussi Hagman CS in Åbo Akademi University
Studentbyn 4 D 33 [juhagman--abo--fi]
20540 Åbo [jhagman--infa--abo--fi]