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[REBOL] Re: facts we will have to face ...

From: robert:muench:robertmuench at: 27-Oct-2001 13:00

> -----Original Message----- > From: [rebol-bounce--rebol--com] [mailto:[rebol-bounce--rebol--com]]On Behalf Of > Gregg Irwin > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 8:20 PM > To: [rebol-list--rebol--com] > Subject: [REBOL] Re: facts we will have to face ... > When you said "It's a tool for communication" I interpret it to mean > communication between humans, not programs and machines. This is where REBOL > should *really* shine.
Hi, first thing to mark from my side: I would love to use Rebol instead of PowerPoint! But my client doesn't pay me for that, or more correctly my client expects me to use PowerPoint. This thing isn't discussable...
> Cybarite has done a nice VID sample called EV-Pres > which uses EasyVID as its basis. Jeff has also done a little > animation/presentation engine. Then there's Oldes' slide show sample. With > these, and looking at IOS' Presenter reblet screen-shot, it should be clear > that you *could* build a presentation app to compete with PowerPoint. Most > people only want/need/use probably 1% of the functionality in the current MS > Office apps. But I digress...
Yes, but no one else can create it. We can, we know how to program, we know about languages and about nice technology methods. But 99,5% of the people our there don't! And that's our problem. With presentations we target the wrong market. These people are happy to be able to use 1% of PowerPoint. I'm currently using my make-doc-pro for documenting my project. You won't believe how much effort I have to bring in to get people used to the HTML files. They expect word, powerpoint files. Only one team member is using make-doc-pro too. But I needed about 3 weeks to convinve him to try it out... That's just the reallity and I'm not going to change this in a one-person-show. So I suggest, instead using your power, time and motivation to convert those people, let's create something that can transform into their world. The benefit we have? Well, I'm going to be 50% more productive than my competitors and get a 50% better result! That's value and customers are going to pay you for this. They could pick-up the powerpoint stuff and continue to work on it... but it didn't took my 3 hours to create, only 20 minutes but I would tell, I made in 1 hour ;-))
> PowerPoint is a great example of what works in the context of a controlled > environment not working outside of a controlled environment. It's a closed > format and not easily distributed. People send me PPS files and I can't view > them and I'm running W2K! My wife can't run them on her iMac, and they take > *forever* to download. If I can't see the data, the communcation link has > failed utterly.
I totaly agree. But that's the situation, I can't change, maybe you can in your context.
> Sorry to ramble on here but I'm just about jumping out of my chair thinking > about the possibilities.
You don't have to be sorry for it, I'm doing the same, but I try to get back from our better Rebol world to reality and think about building a bridge between those two places...
> Maybe because I had such a hard time getting > PowerPoint to work for me when I did presentations and they said I *had* to > use it.
I know for sure!
> What we need is a "presentation IDE" for REBOL. :)
... which bridges the gap to PowerPoint. Robert