[REBOL] Re: facts we will have to face ...
From: robert:muench:robertmuench at: 27-Oct-2001 13:00
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> Gregg Irwin
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> Subject: [REBOL] Re: facts we will have to face ...
> When you said "It's a tool for communication" I interpret it to mean
> communication between humans, not programs and machines. This is where REBOL
> should *really* shine.
Hi, first thing to mark from my side: I would love to use Rebol instead of
PowerPoint! But my client doesn't pay me for that, or more correctly my client
expects me to use PowerPoint. This thing isn't discussable...
> Cybarite has done a nice VID sample called EV-Pres
> which uses EasyVID as its basis. Jeff has also done a little
> animation/presentation engine. Then there's Oldes' slide show sample. With
> these, and looking at IOS' Presenter reblet screen-shot, it should be clear
> that you *could* build a presentation app to compete with PowerPoint. Most
> people only want/need/use probably 1% of the functionality in the current MS
> Office apps. But I digress...
Yes, but no one else can create it. We can, we know how to program, we know
about languages and about nice technology methods. But 99,5% of the people our
there don't! And that's our problem. With presentations we target the wrong
market. These people are happy to be able to use 1% of PowerPoint.
I'm currently using my make-doc-pro for documenting my project. You won't
believe how much effort I have to bring in to get people used to the HTML files.
They expect word, powerpoint files.
Only one team member is using make-doc-pro too. But I needed about 3 weeks to
convinve him to try it out... That's just the reallity and I'm not going to
change this in a one-person-show.
So I suggest, instead using your power, time and motivation to convert those
people, let's create something that can transform into their world. The benefit
we have? Well, I'm going to be 50% more productive than my competitors and get a
50% better result! That's value and customers are going to pay you for this.
They could pick-up the powerpoint stuff and continue to work on it... but it
didn't took my 3 hours to create, only 20 minutes but I would tell, I made in 1
> PowerPoint is a great example of what works in the context of a controlled
> environment not working outside of a controlled environment. It's a closed
> format and not easily distributed. People send me PPS files and I can't view
> them and I'm running W2K! My wife can't run them on her iMac, and they take
> *forever* to download. If I can't see the data, the communcation link has
> failed utterly.
I totaly agree. But that's the situation, I can't change, maybe you can in your
> Sorry to ramble on here but I'm just about jumping out of my chair thinking
> about the possibilities.
You don't have to be sorry for it, I'm doing the same, but I try to get back
from our better Rebol world to reality and think about building a bridge between
those two places...
> Maybe because I had such a hard time getting
> PowerPoint to work for me when I did presentations and they said I *had* to
> use it.
I know for sure!
> What we need is a "presentation IDE" for REBOL. :)
... which bridges the gap to PowerPoint. Robert