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[REBOL] Re: Rebol and New Hybrid Software Model

From: petr::krenzelok::seznam::cz at: 15-Sep-2007 17:26

Chris Dwyer napsal(a):
> >> New Hybrid Software Model > > Perhaps R3 should go this direction? >
You should know, that there is some guy at QNX company, who is author of that hybrid model for them. That guy lives close to Carl, and they met in the summer. Carl told him about his Hybrid model, and now QNX comes with that. Coincidence? :-)
> Open source has changed everything and all languages are competing > with the likes of PHP and javascript, java et al. >
There is many examples of stuff not being open-source and popular, and of things being open-source, yet not widespread ....
> I hate talking to my ISP cause I know that as soon as I mention REBOL > on their servers, their eyes roll back into their collect heads. I > feel I can't use REBOL if there are these issues to overcome. >
And I think you are highly exagerrating. I talked to two ISPs here, and they had no problems at all. What is more - once you have general CGI allowed, you don't need even to mention it to them - just place rebol executable into cgi-bin directory itself. And you know what I hate? Morons like that, who roll back their eyes. Some few years ago, I started to not being shy of REBOL anymore. There is NO reason to it - if the tool in question does the job for you, just mention it. I work as a chief of IT of large company here in CZ, my guys know about REBOL. I don't push it on them, as REBOL is not there. Yet for general scripting it is OK. I meet with some of IBM guys, other vendors too, and I don't hesitate to mention REBOL to them. And you should not too ....
> I don't know how you get around this prejudice on a wide spread > basis. When I mention to people to have a look at REBOL and explain > my enthusiasm for it, the first words out of their mouths is "Is it > open-source?" >
I really have no intention to loose my time with such loosers. I already explained my experience with one REBOL plus Python user. He generally likes REBOL, but he does not like it is not open source. He complained on many things. I asked him, if he ever submitted some bugreport, joined ml to ask some questions, etc. - he never did. But he does not hesitate to do so with Python. Yet - he NEVER looked into Python sources. I find it being a hypocricy. Don't get me wrong. I know about open-source advantages. But open-source itself is not determinant of tool being usefull and good, or not .... Do you really think, that by opening R3 kernel, we would suddenly have tens of very good C coders to help with REBOL development? I don't think so, there are also other factors ... Well, one think is clear. You guys really need R3 soon enough, to have other worries than if the tool is open sourced or not :-) Petr