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[REBOL] Re: understanding rebol

From: gerardcote:sympatico:ca at: 6-Jan-2004 0:56

Hi Max,
> Yes I would like to see this and the ref doc tool rescuscitated. > > the ref-doc.r is my single most usefull rebol self-help tool. It is out of date, but man its usefull. it would be fun to merge
both ideas by creating a base viewer and using m-d-p files as catalogues which can be loaded/edited.
I was asking for what was the ref-doc.r script but was unable to find any reference about it. Searching for more info I found a rebdoc.r script in the library. After launching it from the REBOL 1.2.8 console I got the following : REBOL Word Summary for 6-Jan-2004/0:06:08-5:00 288 words Why do you say that it is a bit outdated since REBOL can regenerate a new words list each time it is launched. Let me know if we talk about the same script. By the way I still think that what is missing the most is an example list accompanying all these REBOL words as used in and by a current programmer to solve most of its simpler tasks (and later in an advanced section the not so simple ones too). The Cookbook is already going in this direction for some View and VID advanced features not really described formally elsewhere (or simply documented and illustrated with very simple and isolated tasks). The same is also partly achieved with current REBOL books but the online doc is missing these simple examples. Personally for me as a newcomer the best examples would be based on small real tasks and algorithms - in a similar way my old programming books did before for other languages. I will soon try my best at adapting some Lisp like code based upon the Dr. Scheme environment and tutorials and see if I can put it at work here in the easy-VID environment. May be the help from some Logo examples will be useful too but I don't want to reinvent the wheel again since there is probably much work that has been done formally here by someone that doesn't take anything for granted (I don't want to name anybody in particular but I love the way Joel Neely, Carl Read, Gregg and many others always get to the right solution by following a proven analytical process when some problem arises on the ML.) May be some ppl would like to contribute "lightly" and share some of their small code snippets used for testing the many REBOL words they learned in the past - I alas suppose they kept these and they can take some time to feed us with them or at least they can invent some others on the fly to help others when request is done as is generally the case here on the ML. It seems to me this must be done now to let advanced ppl get more free time in the future for harder tasks - even if it is probably a pleasure for them to continue helping newbies if I relate by the popularity of the questions answered here on the ML. At least if the newbies can fly a bit more by themselves they will cease to blame the bad quality of the online information available about REBOL.
> I am starting work on STEEL|forge this week. Maybe I could tackle this documentation issue as a workable prototype to try out
the ideas I have for forge. Instead of a dummy application, I might end-up with something which actually helps out, on its own too!
> Something that is one script, loads catalogues, saves local appended versions. With some collaboration from, we could
include a submit button where we could all send our usefull tidbits and load them, a la ref-doc.
I'll let advanced users like you and many others in the community to start in this way. Regards, Gerard