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[REBOL] Re: [why-REBOL] Pros and Cons / what's so special

From: bry:itnisk at: 25-Jun-2004 11:06

> >Using your example, for the sake of argument, I think a lot of people > >*would* be able to do this kind of thing: > > > > mailbox: [ > > scheme: 'pop > > user: 'project1 > > host: "" > > smtp: "" > > pass: "gregg" > > address: [project1--xxx--org] > > ] > > list: [[foo--bar--com][baz--foo--com]] > > box: open mailbox > > while [not empty? box] [ > > message: import-email first box > > send/only list message/content > > remove box > > ] > > I'm not so sure. The first question would be "What's scheme mean?" They > could cut and paste it though.
Yeah, and once you get to cut and paste a lot of people can do a lot of things. If this were my first time looking at this, it might be difficult, I would say, okay mailbox is the email address I'm reading, all that's fine. okay that while[] means I'm gonna loop through the mailbox until its empty. first and remove however might not exactly leap out to me as being the most important operative words in this loop. I would have to go look that up. This might be described as linguistic pollution on my part, but anyway I think it affects people the same way when they start.
> > > >Have you seen any of the following: > > > > AltME
There are parts of AltME that just bug the hell out of me, navigation wise. especially a couple months ago when I had tennis elbow and I could not navigate through it without a great amount of pain. This was not the only problem although as I don't have AltME here, and I'm sure my installation at home is probably screwed, having had to reinstall windows last week I doubt that I could give an accurate rundown of the interface problems I encountered. The problems however were of a nature that my experience with Rebol have shown me to be, if not insoluble, difficult to solve, and thus relatively unrewarding to a programmer for the amount of time put into them. For me as a user however they were problems I needed solved.
> > IOS
IOS is admittedly great. I suppose I should add that to Async.
> > Temple
> > PDF-maker
This is problematic, I have quite a bit of expertise in XSL-FO, and various XSL-FO processors, Also some with Erlang's ErlGuten. I always need to make pdfs from xml data. I need to support international character sets. Text directionality. Since I've had to build print-on demand capable systems I have high requirements not just on what kinds of pdf can be output, but also on the pdf-making process' interoperability with other processes. PDF-Maker is good, but it wouldn't fulfill my needs, and my needs are such that I wouldn't consider building a system for fulfilling them in Rebol.
> > Oldes' SWF-dialect
Somewhat similar to PDF-maker, I have a number of tools I use together that give me quite a bit of control over flash creation. Although as a general rule I don't have to do a lot of that.
> > NREN-Detective (incl. its installer)
no, okay looks nice, not sure yet that it would be the kind of thing I would not have considered appropriate for developing in Rebol.