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[REBOL] Re: The Attacks on GRC.COM

From: chris:starforge:demon at: 6-Jun-2001 11:43

Graham Chiu wrote:
>>I'd be paying for the huge volume of traffic going into >>my modem. >> > > I've been a little worried about that scenario as well. I > guess if you could show it was a DOS attack, they shouldn't > charge you and they should be responsible for blocking it > for you.
Let me guess, you've never tried to get a refund from an ISP have you? ;) These people *really don't* care what goes one as long as someone pays the bills, if you complain then you end up in a paperchase being passed from department to department, each one claiming it is someone else's responsibility. I think that phone ops at ISPs need a degree in Buck Passing to get their jobs... Actually there is a simple and scary reason why they take this attitude: the minute they actually become involved in the data they transfer, they admit that they are - at least in part - responsible for it. This is all that some lawyers would need to make lawsuits against ISPs are very common thing indeed. Rather than face up to this, they prefer to deny all responsibility for the actions of their subscribers (and their safety). Pretending a problem doesn't exist in the hope it will go away is a common practice among Suits. On another note though, one thing I've never quite understood about people falling victim to DDoS trojans and the rest is why they never notice they are there. Like these email viruses that send out 50 copies of themselves. Even if they don't take as paranoid an attitude as people like me, they must notice their bandwidth is being chewed up?! Perhaps it's the demise of external modems with lots of Blinkenlights, or maybe they really think that cable/DSL connections are really slow, but I know I would notice something like that happening even without my firewalls, packet logger and regular netstat...
>>The problem is worse with things like Saturn >>Cable where you have a static IP address. It's enough to >>make you go back to dial up modem. > Never :-)
Some of us have never even manage to get cable or DSL :(( Damn BT.. Chris