[REBOL] R: Re: [REBOL]
From: riusa:email:it at: 8-Jul-2002 23:57
Ok... I understand. But you could admit this is another problem and the
difference from Open Source projects and closed-projects. Ok, RT has to gain
money to survive, but they survive even there are persons like me that buy
their products, I spend much time in my company to convince my boss & co.
(my collegues, etc...) (and I risk to be "marked" as a bother dependent, as
a - "what a bore he is!" -). If I convice my boss they gain more money and
can continue to develop this very good product. Furthermore I have an
organization no-profit (I am the president) and I wish to use Rebol to
simplify data exchange from the members, from other people (non-members).
But if the Rbol licence will not be more "elastic", more accurate I will
always have problems to let the people know Rebol (I'm an analyst/programmer
and I can directly develop the needed software). If RT would be more
collaborative, all "Rebol-fans" (a "Rebol-fan" is an happy user, an happy
developer, an happy document-writer, etc..) will be happier, "Rebol-fans"
will suggest more (even better) software solutions, "Rebol-fans" could help
them (due to their low resources) to write documentation, to develop code
(maybe limited to mezzanine functions, or some libraries written in Rebol)
and under the supervision of RT, etc...
Do you wanna an extreme solution? Please RT, gain your money with your
products, not with Rebol self! Are your resources missing to develop Rebol?
Ok! Put it under GPL... no under FreeBSD licence, or use something like MIT
licence, do what FreeBSD team does... RT will coordinate the job
(programming, docs, etc...) and you can concentrate your forces to develop
IOS. You yourself will gain from this system: infact you will develop IOS
(or everything you wish) using a more advanced language! The language that
everybody contributed to develop, and RT popularity will increase!
(NOTE: I know your good quality Carl, since I have had many times, many
years a Commodore Amiga, and I know the power of that product, I programmed
it for many years (from Lattice C to assembler 68000) and I know the quality
of the kernel, multitasking, etc...).
NOTE 2: A good product is nothing if it is not well accompanied with a good
selling policy... look at IBM OS/2, BeOS, look at Borland products (Borland
risked seriously to fail), etc...
Bye Rebol-fans (RF?!)
--Alessandro--
-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: [rebol-bounce--rebol--com] [mailto:[rebol-bounce--rebol--com]]Per conto di
Jason Cunliffe
Inviato: Monday, July 08, 2002 5:36 PM
A: [rebol-list--rebol--com]
Oggetto: [REBOL] Re: [REBOL]
>But can someone, in Rebol team (administration, Carl!, etc...) tell us
>what do you think about all these ideas?
Hi Alessandro--
You raise interesting and important points. And the topic seems to come up
pretty regularly, in fact seems to me that every REBOL user goes through a
cycle
of Love, Hope, promotional braintorming, wishlist/licensing brainstorming
and
then frustration.
Unfortunately, RT very rarely seem to engage openly in such discussions
about
stretegy or licensing in this forum. Off-list, there may well be other
focused
dialog. My impression is that the company is very small and really stretched
to
their human resource limits. So even if they are able to monitor the
discussions
on the list list, it seems they have not the time to post/feedback. And of
course direct public posting would entail further time investment. But I
wish
they had enough money to allow someone to dedicate quality time to help
absorb
the best of rebol-list and respond.
It woudl be nice to have some meeting in person.. a different chance to
share
and learn. But its a small tribe of rebols and so very far flung still.
best wishes
./Jason
