[REBOL] Re: Who read this mailing list?
From: ale870:g:mail at: 23-Nov-2007 12:29
Consider that AltMe is a tool for Rebol people.
If (example) I was a new developer, and I wish to know more info about a
language, I usually go in the forums, I will not look for AltMe!
Forums & co help Rebol to talk about itself to the people that don't know
Rebol!
Furthermore, if I use (or I want to use) Rebol only for hobby, or I have
problems to be in internet all over the day (more: what happen if I'm to the
other side of the globe? 10 hour before or later than you...) I will never
be able to follow real-time discussions in AltMe.
Meetings? Well I do the meetings with my colleagues, but we are in the same
location, and we take an appointment, and we make the meeting for 1 hour or
more, not for 24x7.
Even if Altme is a powerful tool, I think it creates a kind of isolation, a
kind of barrier, a block for every other user (new programmer, causal
developer, developers that cannot use internet for all the day, people that
are to the other side of the Earth, etc...).
I follow Carl's blog (even if the news are very few, it is not frequently
updated), but I even want to discuss, say something, etc... I say again that
RT should have to open an official forum, used by everybody, with several
items ("What's new", "Carl's information", "beginner area", etc....).
On Nov 23, 2007 11:44 AM, Carl Read <carl-cybercraft.co.nz> wrote:
> On Friday, 23-Novenber-2007 at 10:24:54 Petr Krenzelok wrote,
>
> >> No - I was just pointing out email's strength. (Though I fail to see
> what's
> >wrong with abandoning meetings;)
> >>
> >haha, that made my day, man :-) I will remember that - "what is wrong
> >with abandoning meetings" :-) it would fit for most of them :-)
>
> Glad to be of service. ;-)
>
> >> AltME and such I'm sure are good for those who're developing R3 or are
> >communicating with others on REBOL-based projects, but if there's no way
> for
> >those outside to know what's happening and why, (especially the 'why'),
> then
> >you'll have to expect a lot of uninformed questions from the uninformed
> >public.
> >>
> >>
> >yes, that is that. I can see it as not an AltME problem, but
> >communication problem. Most ppl here might feel excluded from the
> >process. My personal belief was, that Carl's blog should serve that
> >purpose, but those would have to be more frequent. And that is not the
> >only problem. Even if Carl blogs, it just is not enough, because of one
> >factor - you simply don't know WHAT to expect, and WHEN to expect.
>
> Some people are just not natural bloggers, whereas others seem to emit
> reams of posts to the point where you wonder if it's all they ever do.
>
> >That
> >is why I was for milestones, and often releases. I think the team
> >understands that, and that they are putting finishing touches to DevBase
> >in order for others to be part of R3 soon ;-)
>
> The problem with often releases of a language is that programmers have a
> shifting target to deal with. There would need to be versions defined as
> stable releases.
>
> Will DevBase be just a REBOL program, or accessable via a web-browser as
> well? For the casually interested, via the browser is really a must. (Even
> if only read-only.)
>
> -- Carl Read.
>
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