[REBOL] Rebol and vim: (was lost the case ...)
From: tim:johnsons-web at: 5-Nov-2003 8:20
* Volker Nitsch <[nitsch-lists--netcologne--de]> [031105 07:13]:
> Am Dienstag, 4. November 2003 03:17 schrieb Tim Johnson:
> > Now, given that scenario, suppose I've got rebol imbedded in my
> > editor (which is VIM), just as python is imbedded in vim.
> > If that were that case, I could program rebol to automate
> > the writing of "C".
> > That would make for a remarkable plugin, and I'm sure that the vim
> > developers and the vim community would work with RT to make that
> > happen. that would be just awesome and give rebol that much more
> > exposure.
> > And BTW, I don't believe that RT would have to provide source code. Vim
> > doesn't care about python binary source.
> ===Rebol as emacs-plugin:
Small World! That's an article that my partner and I
published, written by Sterling Newton. :-).
> I guess vim can work similar.
Sorry, I don't believe I made myself clear there. What Sterling
writes about in that article is using 'plugins' *for* rebol.
I'm talking about using rebol *as* a plugin.
I have extensive plugins *for* rebol in vim, as do many others
on this list. Those plugins are written in either native
vim script or imbedded python..... read on:
Your emacs code below is elisp script, and the elisp interpreter
is imbedded 'inside' of emacs. Vim has the 'hooks' to actually
compile the following interpreters:
ruby, python, perl,tcl (at least)
into the vim executable - just as elisp is in emacs. Therefore one
can write an editor plugin in any language that has it's binary
"inside of" vim, just as you have writen the elisp code below,
which is processed by the elisp interpreter, which is imbedded
This is comparable to the apache 'language modes', which essentially
do the same thing for the perl, python, php etc.
One of the neat things about Vim (and it's developers), is that
it is a very inclusive design that is conceived to closely interact
with other systems and applications. (One of the gnu-est of the gnu applications)
Wouldn't it be cool if the 'emacs' (actually elisp) code could be
written in rebol? I'd love it. For instance, yhere are extensive
plugins 'for python' written 'in python' that turn vim into a
full-fledge python IDE.
BTW: Volker, I'm really interested in learning to program rebol in
emacs, perhaps someday I could prevail upon you to share some of your
elisp plugins with me. I orginally wanted to learn emacs, but I
frequently would ask questions of comp.emacs and often those questions
would go unanswered
- unlike this ML and the vim ML - which is why I went with vim.
For instance, emacs can't distinguish my imbedded keypad, where
vim and Xemacs can...... and no one can tell me why or how to fix
And rebol and lisp are quite similar.
> ===some of my beginners emacs-code.
> it saves, calls a script, reads result and jumps to old position. in this case
> it prettyprints the sourcecode with rebols own cleaner.:
> (defun cleans () "clear rebol script"
> (shell-command (concat"rebol -cs ~/xenv/cleans.r " (buffer-file-name
> (let((old (point)))
> (find-alternate-file (buffer-file-name (current-buffer)))
> (goto-char old)
> ===a rebol-script in the background:
> this o(not presented) script uploads the file with ftp. or downloads.
> or shows date and size and header of both. since its a shared ftp-site i want
> to check before. all actions are on hotkeys, so its "c-x c-g c-u" from emacs.
> (the c-u goes to the rebol-window ;)
> (defun run-uni () "run rebol-buffer through emacs.r"
> (concat rebol-binary " -s ~/xenv/uni.r emacs "
> (buffer-file-name (current-buffer)) "&" ))
> ;;(other-window 1)
> ===using emacs for the real editing from rebol (view 1.2.10 beta)
> line: length? parse/all
> copy/part d-area/text system/view/caret "^/"
> set-browser-path "emacsclient"
> browse probe join "+" [line " " a-file]
> wait 1 quit
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