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[REBOL] Re: lost the case ...

From: tim:johnsons-web at: 3-Nov-2003 17:17

I'm not going to quote anyone here, because I'm taking a different attack than Pekr did - but it is worthwhile to take the same subject line. Given the context for which I generally use rebol - web programming - it is the most productive programming language that I have ever used. And I know wherefore I speak because I've worked in about a dozen of them. Currently, about half of my income comes from rebol code, about 40% comes from python and another 10% from C. But I am self-employed, own my own business and in most cases, I can deliver product in whatever source I choose. I am also fortunate that my domain hoster hosts rebol. If I were to use python as an example - rebol is more productive *but* python has more resources. *And* is more less propietary ----- real important concept. The same can be said for perl and that is why my business/programming partner is sticking with perl rather than switching to rebol despite being very impressed with it. I've hammered this time and again on this list, and I will say it again, there is *so* much talent in the rebol community that a real *distro* could be put together that could rival anything that python or perl have to offer. I have no doubt whatsoever that would attract more programmers. On another note: Let's say I have a client who says "Tim, I want your code in C. I don't care if it will take more time than rebol. Rebol is obscure." Now, given that scenario, suppose I've got rebol imbedded in my editor (which is VIM), just as python is imbedded in vim. If that were that case, I could program rebol to automate the writing of "C". That would make for a remarkable plugin, and I'm sure that the vim developers and the vim community would work with RT to make that happen. that would be just awesome and give rebol that much more exposure. And BTW, I don't believe that RT would have to provide source code. Vim doesn't care about python binary source. Rebol has taken a proprietary path that I am not sure that I agree with. I won't program in view, because TK has so much more application. This isn't an opinion, it is a business decision. And anytime that I need to do stuff with compressed files, I will use python. Why - rip files are proprietory. Not too long ago, I suggested on this list, that rebol might benefit from incorporating the regex engine (which is public domain code), such as perl does. On of my brothers is project engineer for Motorola. He uses rebol and perl extensively in-house. Rebol for TCP/IP stuff, perl for regex. He tells me that if rebol would adopt regex, that his perl programmers would be getting real used to square brackets. That is - they would be using rebol instead. Just my 5centsworth. Time to put some break on the table. -- Tim Johnson <[tim--johnsons-web--com]>