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[REBOL] Re: oss revisited (briefly!) -- GROOVY

From: maximo:meteorstudios at: 17-Feb-2004 15:08

> Max wrote: > > IMHO Java is dying... slowly but surely. probably because > microsoft > split the java idea with their own Jscript and encouraged as > many different > java platforms, in order to discredit it in the long-run with > fragmented > developer/code bases. > > I disagree. Java seems to be doing much *better* these days. > Lots of cool > projects and people building farmeworks which interoperate.
that's news to me... thanks for setting records straight ! I guess I'm burying myself too deeply in python and rebol. Is it still slow?
> Also iirc Jscript was/is M$ version of Javascript [ECMA 262]- > *not* Java.
I know, but newbies don't always, and this is one of the forms of deceit I meant being used by M$. Its like if M$ invented a new language (yet again) and called it rebolScript.
> Now appearing as Jscript.NET > http://www.gotdotnet.com/team/jscript/ >
..NET: because no one had yet reached this level of bloat. ;-)
> hmm... Well meanwhile Language Lovers, check out Groovy: > > http://groovy.codehaus.org/ >
I think its syntax looks like yet another C Look-alike like java. Remember pascal, delphi, language E (for amigans ;-) , language D, etc, etc, etc... There is more to a language than just is featureset (especially nowadays, with everyone trying doing much of the same). rebol's SYNTAX (or lack of) is its main feature. The fact that refering to a function and a variable IN EXACTLY the same syntax, allows MANY code tricks. The fact that code IS data (even the currently executing one) also sets it appart. In this arena, rebol is still king IMO. imagine trying to generate dynamic nested code in python... It must be a nightmare! peace! ;-) -MAx