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[REBOL] Re: /View as a Product

From: dvydra2:yaho:o at: 18-Feb-2001 21:07

Karl, You make a very convincing argument for REBOL to go open source. They should adopt a licence where corporations will have to pay, but individuls will not. Lets hope for the best. Regards, David --- Karl Robillard <[karlr20--home--com]> wrote:
> Heh heh, I was wondering when Mark's OSCAR posts > would provoke a response > from people at REBOL Technologies (RT). As a > suggestion, perhaps Mark could > limit his OSCAR recruiting efforts to a monthly > status report on this list. > > For the past four years I've been using Trolltech's > Qt GUI toolkit > (http://www.trolltech.com) for my user interfaces. > Even though it was not > open source when I started using it, all source code > was provided and it was > free for free products. If either of those > conditions had not existed I > would not have used it. Since then I have had the > companies I have worked > for purchase multiple licenses. Trolltech is a > successful company (they've > just opened a new office in the states and raised > the price for a Windows > license to almost 2 grand!) and now their products > are open source. > > I hope RT will pursue a similar course of action. > > Thanks for your post Scott (Jones?). The interview > with Larry Wall is a good > read. As a Linux user for the past five years I > know the value and security > of open source. > > REBOL, to be fully realized, will become a > foundation technology > (infrastructure) for larger systems. In the > interview Scott mentioned, Larry > Wall says "What I do see is a growing recognition > that anything resembling > large-scale infrastructure ought to be open source". > I agree that > infrastructure is best when it is 'owned' by > everyone. There is little worse > than being forced to use inadequate tools (Microsoft > anyone?) or seeing > valuable tools die (the sad fate of the Amiga). > Open source insures us > against both of these extreme technological maladies > (did I make that up or > did I read that somewhere?). > > Hi Volker Nitsch. You seem to be a little confused > as to what open source > means. Where is the audio in REBOL? Where are the > fast vector-graphics > (Flash)? Where is the fast GUI with clipboard/DND? > Where is 3D? > If I had the source code to REBOL, I could probably > add audio for OSS (unix) > in a few hours. In a few weeks I could add model! > and animation! datatypes. > If I don't have the source and the ability to add > datatypes to REBOL I'm SOL > and I wait with everyone else for RT to implement > it. I am frustrated about > not being able to use REBOL where I would like to > because of the restrictions > (e.g. no system calls!) RT places on it. > > Before RT had funding, I recall they were asking for > donations. > I would never give money to someone so they can > develop *their* product. If > it had been an open source venture where they were > developing a product to be > released to *me*, I would have gladly given upwards > of $1000. > > And now for some less focused thought. > > Open source is very zen. Everyone owns it yet no > one controls it. It can be > nurtured and harvested to provide income for the > care-givers. It can be > focused and shaped to arcane purposes. It can be > viciously hacked! > > REBOL hints at truth > sequestered on its island > openness awaits > > Cheers, > -Karl > > P.S. At work I'm writing a REBOL-like scripting > language for video games. My > company is very pro open source. Keep your fingers > crossed! > -- > To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email > to > [rebol-request--rebol--com] with "unsubscribe" in the > subject, without the quotes. >
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