[REBOL] Re: SketchUp -> seeking Ruby overview in Rebolese
From: jasonic:nomadics at: 8-Aug-2004 20:12
Hi Christian
Thanks for your comments..
My only experience with Smalltalk has been indirect -- HMSL, a
Smalltalk-inspired computer music language based on ODE, an object-oriented
Forth [Yikes its true] running on Amigas. Rebol remands me it plenty. I see
Rebol as a forward moving or streaming version of Forth. [reverse reverse
polish = forwards streaming]
> Rebol could benefit from a IDE like Smalltalk has since the 60's... An
> IDE that is much better than anything currently used by today standard
> including Eclipse. Eclipse is a mere shadow of a Smalltalk IDE.
Yes. What features would you like to see ?
Today I downloaded several Ruby packages and installations.
Friendly one-click installation of the main Windows packcage inlcludes SciTe
[Scintilla Text Editor].
You code in left pane [editor w/color syntax], and hit just F5 to open Ruby
shell interpretor in right hand pane and run the script.
Nice having docs, editor interpreter all in one tool.
http://www.scintilla.org/SciTE.html
> Why is that both languages are not commercially successful ?
aah Yes trying to answer that question is well trodden ground by a long road
I think ;-)
But apart from $$$ marketing, hype, politics and historical luck, I believe
the commercial success of the others has much to do with scale of community
and richness of libraries, modules and good documentation etc. There
appears to be a threshold when languages reach a certain population big
enough to survive. I was surprise to read taht Ruby strarted in 1993. Python
took a long time to emerge. Like REBOL they are the prodcut of very boirght
talented individuals supported by a core cluster of dedicated enthusiasts
[prolfiic ealry adopters]. Python is now mainstream and commercially
respectable/recognized, but that has only happened in the past 3 years
really. I hope Rebol fruits become known for a wider audience soon too.
cheers
Jason
