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[REBOL] Re: SketchUp -> seeking Ruby overview in Rebolese

From: jasonic:nomadics at: 8-Aug-2004 20:12

Hi Christian Thanks for your comments.. My only experience with Smalltalk has been indirect -- HMSL, a Smalltalk-inspired computer music language based on ODE, an object-oriented Forth [Yikes its true] running on Amigas. Rebol remands me it plenty. I see Rebol as a forward moving or streaming version of Forth. [reverse reverse polish = forwards streaming]
> Rebol could benefit from a IDE like Smalltalk has since the 60's... An > IDE that is much better than anything currently used by today standard > including Eclipse. Eclipse is a mere shadow of a Smalltalk IDE.
Yes. What features would you like to see ? Today I downloaded several Ruby packages and installations. Friendly one-click installation of the main Windows packcage inlcludes SciTe [Scintilla Text Editor]. You code in left pane [editor w/color syntax], and hit just F5 to open Ruby shell interpretor in right hand pane and run the script. Nice having docs, editor interpreter all in one tool.
> Why is that both languages are not commercially successful ?
aah Yes trying to answer that question is well trodden ground by a long road I think ;-) But apart from $$$ marketing, hype, politics and historical luck, I believe the commercial success of the others has much to do with scale of community and richness of libraries, modules and good documentation etc. There appears to be a threshold when languages reach a certain population big enough to survive. I was surprise to read taht Ruby strarted in 1993. Python took a long time to emerge. Like REBOL they are the prodcut of very boirght talented individuals supported by a core cluster of dedicated enthusiasts [prolfiic ealry adopters]. Python is now mainstream and commercially respectable/recognized, but that has only happened in the past 3 years really. I hope Rebol fruits become known for a wider audience soon too. cheers Jason