(No subject)Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:20:09 -0500
[1/3] from: jasonic:panix at: 20-Nov-2001 14:18
<[oliva--david--seznam--cz]> wrote:
> Flash dialect / parsing expressions
> ===================================
[...snip...]
> ... I actually started to make dialect for creating Flash files as
well....
[...snip...]
That's very cool. I agree with about the great potential for Flash + REBOL.
But that must be Flash 5.x
The Good news is Macromedia recently released the Flash 5 SWF spec to
accelerate deevlopment of 3rd party devices and software.
How well do you understand the SWF format?
Have you looked into MING ?
http://opaque.net/ming/
<quote>
Ming is a c library for generating SWF ("Flash") format movies, plus a set
of wrappers for using the library from c++ and popular scripting languages
like PHP, Python, and Ruby. There is not yet a REBOL interface.
</quote>
A direct REBOL-SWF dialect is a wonderful way to go :-)
But maybe can learn from Ming, even if bypassing it.
There are many interesting uses for Flash -> as an installation or
distribution medium for REBOL on any platfroms which support Flash. When
running a standalone executable, [and with 3rd Party extensions], you have a
very rich interface which is easy to design adn use. Shockwave can do even
more [Flash + 3D + video + ??]. This could include the installation of
REBOL/Core and REBOl/View, REBOL scripts like the FLASH dialect as you
propose, or simply scripts using it and more.
=> *Yes Please keep me posted of any work you do creating REBOL-SWF dialect.
thanks
./Jason
[2/3] from: petr:krenzelok:trz:cz at: 21-Nov-2001 6:03
I want Rebol/View become Flash in itself, just in small size :-) Give Cyphre
general effect engine, few tweaks to View kernel, rotation effect, etc., and you
will get /View suitable for at least basic presentations .....
-pekr-
[3/3] from: jasonic:panix at: 21-Nov-2001 0:45
> I want Rebol/View become Flash in itself, just in small size :-) Give
Cyphre
> general effect engine, few tweaks to View kernel, rotation effect, etc.,
and you
> will get /View suitable for at least basic presentations .....
>
> -pekr-
aah.. yes please :-))
But a REBOL-FLASH dialect may be very useful path towards that.
One should not understand the fundamental strength of the Flash dynamic
object paradigm: nested Flash movie clips each of which have their own
timeline. [goodexample: http://www.levitated.net/ ]
REBOL/View is a toy in that respect, but could go very far if it considers
not just opening up the effect engine, but also what is need to implement
keyframeable timelines, vector graphics and sound.
Imagine if you could do all this in REBOL:
save %show.r some-show
show: read %show.r
present show
...with an option to also write...
save/swf %show.swf show ; <= save REBOL show to Flash SWF file
./jason